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Some info for the new guys on a few compounds that will help you win your war against prolactin, estrogen and progesterone...
Arimidex (anastrozole) (aromatase inhibitor)is a compound that can inhibit around 75% of estrogen conversion if taken properly. Someone on the board (I'm not sure who it was) said as a rule of thumb, use at least 25mg per 250mg of test per week...arimidex is also found in liquid forms like liquidex...Liquidex is anastrozole powder mixed with glycerin. There are a few different kinds of liquidex coming from different suppliers some are higher concentrations of arimidex per ml...others have added ingredients to enhance the absorbtion. Liquidex is much cheaper then arimidex in the tablet form....Studies have shown that arimidex decreases IGF-1 levels by around 18%
Femara (letrozole) is another compound that may be useful ...Femara is another aromatase inhibitor...that actually icreases IGF-1 levels by 24%...If used correctly, Femara can effectively inhibit about 80% of estrogen conversion. Femara also stimulates serum LH...I've yet to try femara, but I've heard that 1/2 a 2.5mg pill ed is an effective dose for moderate doses of test (I'm not sure about this...I'm just reporting what I heard.
Aromasin (exemestane) is in a class of it's own, it is a aromatase inactivator...It actually renders estrogen receptors useless. Instead of just inhibiting production, it cuts off production. Aromasin can effective prevent about 90-95% of estrogen conversion. A negative aspect of Aromasin is that it decreases IGF-1 levels by about 23-24%
Nolvadex is actually an anti-estrogen that can be useful if symtoms of gyno appear...A problem with nolvadex it supresses estrogen, but then when nolvadex use is discontinued, there is a rebound effect....if you need to use nolvadex, it's a good idea to run it until you start clomid therapy or add proviron after discontinuing use to off set the rebound. Nolvadex also decreases IGF-1 levels by about 25% so it will effect your gains to some extent.
Clomid is a weak anti-estrogen....it is better for the purposes of restoring natural test levels post cycle.
Proviron is a weak anti-estrogen and also a weak androgen...it can be helpful in preventing gyno. It doesn't compete with androgen receptors or lower IGF-1 levels...so it will not effect your gains. Proviron can also be helpful post cycle to boost libedo and improve the ability to get errections. Additionally, I've noticed that proviron puts me in a better mood post cycle...and it hardens muscles a bit. Not to mention, if take in low to moderate does in the am up waking, it does not effect htpa recovery. I'm a big supporter of proviron use both during and post cycle.
Also I must add Winstrol as an effective agent in combating progesterone related sides...Winstrol is very effective in preventing the conversion of progesterone while on deca durabolin....it is also somewhat effective in preventing the conversion or progesterone while using Fina...but not to the extent it does with deca because of the way fina binds to PR receptors.
RU-486 the controversial abortion pill may also be effective in blocking progesterone and as an anti-cortisol...because of the short half-life of the drug (20-30 hours) ed dosing is need. I've heard that 50-75mg ed is an effective dose...Aside from it being difficult to get, Ru-486 has a number of side effects that IMO outweigh the benefits. The first being that it hinders white blood cells and suppresses the immune system...another negative is that low cortisol can inhibit protein degradation and if taken at high doses and not tapered can shut down adrenals and ulimately kill you.
Lastly, there are a number of products that can help you prevent prolactin induced gyno. OTC drugs like Vitex (chasteberry) can help lower prolactin levels, but may cause an increase in progesterone. Bromocriptine can also lower prolactin but also reduces the bodys GH levels. There are a couple of other drugs that inhibit prolactin by raising dopamine levels....Deprenyl inhibits prolactin and improves depression...it also has been said to protect brain cells from free radical oxidation. L-Dopa and velvet bean (which actually contains L-Dopa) may also be helpful by similar means, they raise dopamine and inhibit prolactin. They also have been shown to raise GH levels and assist in burning fat.
clomid starting chart:
i found this chart on a web site. let me know what you guys think. it's a chart as to when you should start your clomid.
Anadrol/Anapolan: 8 - 12 hours after last administration
Deca: 3 weeks after last injection and clomid for 4 weeks
Dianabol: 4 – 8 hours after last administration
Equipoise: 17 – 21 days after last injection
Fina: 3 days after last injection
Primobolan depot: 10 – 14 days after last injection
Sustanon: 3 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate: 2 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Enanthate: 2 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Propionate: 3 days after last injection
Testosterone Suspension: 4 – 8 hours after last administration
Winstrol: 8 – 12 hours after last administration
Hopefully, this will be helpful to some people....it is by no means a complete list...feel free to comment and add to the list.
Quote from whodaman
Some info for the new guys on a few compounds that will help you win your war against prolactin, estrogen and progesterone...
Arimidex (anastrozole) (aromatase inhibitor)is a compound that can inhibit around 75% of estrogen conversion if taken properly. Someone on the board (I'm not sure who it was) said as a rule of thumb, use at least 25mg per 250mg of test per week...arimidex is also found in liquid forms like liquidex...Liquidex is anastrozole powder mixed with glycerin. There are a few different kinds of liquidex coming from different suppliers some are higher concentrations of arimidex per ml...others have added ingredients to enhance the absorbtion. Liquidex is much cheaper then arimidex in the tablet form....Studies have shown that arimidex decreases IGF-1 levels by around 18%
Femara (letrozole) is another compound that may be useful ...Femara is another aromatase inhibitor...that actually icreases IGF-1 levels by 24%...If used correctly, Femara can effectively inhibit about 80% of estrogen conversion. Femara also stimulates serum LH...I've yet to try femara, but I've heard that 1/2 a 2.5mg pill ed is an effective dose for moderate doses of test (I'm not sure about this...I'm just reporting what I heard.
Aromasin (exemestane) is in a class of it's own, it is a aromatase inactivator...It actually renders estrogen receptors useless. Instead of just inhibiting production, it cuts off production. Aromasin can effective prevent about 90-95% of estrogen conversion. A negative aspect of Aromasin is that it decreases IGF-1 levels by about 23-24%
Nolvadex is actually an anti-estrogen that can be useful if symtoms of gyno appear...A problem with nolvadex it supresses estrogen, but then when nolvadex use is discontinued, there is a rebound effect....if you need to use nolvadex, it's a good idea to run it until you start clomid therapy or add proviron after discontinuing use to off set the rebound. Nolvadex also decreases IGF-1 levels by about 25% so it will effect your gains to some extent.
Clomid is a weak anti-estrogen....it is better for the purposes of restoring natural test levels post cycle.
Proviron is a weak anti-estrogen and also a weak androgen...it can be helpful in preventing gyno. It doesn't compete with androgen receptors or lower IGF-1 levels...so it will not effect your gains. Proviron can also be helpful post cycle to boost libedo and improve the ability to get errections. Additionally, I've noticed that proviron puts me in a better mood post cycle...and it hardens muscles a bit. Not to mention, if take in low to moderate does in the am up waking, it does not effect htpa recovery. I'm a big supporter of proviron use both during and post cycle.
Also I must add Winstrol as an effective agent in combating progesterone related sides...Winstrol is very effective in preventing the conversion of progesterone while on deca durabolin....it is also somewhat effective in preventing the conversion or progesterone while using Fina...but not to the extent it does with deca because of the way fina binds to PR receptors.
RU-486 the controversial abortion pill may also be effective in blocking progesterone and as an anti-cortisol...because of the short half-life of the drug (20-30 hours) ed dosing is need. I've heard that 50-75mg ed is an effective dose...Aside from it being difficult to get, Ru-486 has a number of side effects that IMO outweigh the benefits. The first being that it hinders white blood cells and suppresses the immune system...another negative is that low cortisol can inhibit protein degradation and if taken at high doses and not tapered can shut down adrenals and ulimately kill you.
Lastly, there are a number of products that can help you prevent prolactin induced gyno. OTC drugs like Vitex (chasteberry) can help lower prolactin levels, but may cause an increase in progesterone. Bromocriptine can also lower prolactin but also reduces the bodys GH levels. There are a couple of other drugs that inhibit prolactin by raising dopamine levels....Deprenyl inhibits prolactin and improves depression...it also has been said to protect brain cells from free radical oxidation. L-Dopa and velvet bean (which actually contains L-Dopa) may also be helpful by similar means, they raise dopamine and inhibit prolactin. They also have been shown to raise GH levels and assist in burning fat.
clomid starting chart:
i found this chart on a web site. let me know what you guys think. it's a chart as to when you should start your clomid.
Anadrol/Anapolan: 8 - 12 hours after last administration
Deca: 3 weeks after last injection and clomid for 4 weeks
Dianabol: 4 – 8 hours after last administration
Equipoise: 17 – 21 days after last injection
Fina: 3 days after last injection
Primobolan depot: 10 – 14 days after last injection
Sustanon: 3 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate: 2 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Enanthate: 2 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Propionate: 3 days after last injection
Testosterone Suspension: 4 – 8 hours after last administration
Winstrol: 8 – 12 hours after last administration
Hopefully, this will be helpful to some people....it is by no means a complete list...feel free to comment and add to the list.
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