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run it with either some test cyp or enanthane in between 400-500mgs brother. You start seeing the test kick in with 5-6 weeks of it. Thats what I would do personally, never done winny though, but thats what i would take it with.
I must be the only guy who feels test in the first week. I use cyp all the time and I always feel it fast. well I only used 6 amps of sust in a month and I put on 20-25 pounds for a first cycle.
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