extending cycle .. what do you think

[thegame01]

hey guy's i am about a few weeks away from the end of my cycle
1-10 wk test cyp 500
1-10 wk eq 400

I have not seen any results or if there are it is not noticeable .I train hard and eat right . i dont drink etc etc .I take this shit very serious so the effort was there . i am almost 32 yrs old

Anyways i was thinking of extending my cycle and my source recommended taking winny tabs
75mg ed for 40 days since i am not getting any results from the cyp

What do you guy's think .Is 40 days too long and what about the doses
I didnt have any intentions on trying orals but i want to see some gains so am willing to try them as long as the risks are not too severe .

Please feel free to suggest anything
Or am i fucked and will never grow on that shit .

Thanks
GZ

[rado]

Re: extending cycle .. what do you think

Originally posted by thegame01
hey guy's i am about a few weeks away from the end of my cycle
1-10 wk test cyp 500
1-10 wk eq 400

I have not seen any results or if there are it is not noticeable .I train hard and eat right . i dont drink etc etc .I take this shit very serious so the effort was there . i am almost 32 yrs old

Anyways i was thinking of extending my cycle and my source recommended taking winny tabs
75mg ed for 40 days since i am not getting any results from the cyp

What do you guy's think .Is 40 days too long and what about the doses
I didnt have any intentions on trying orals but i want to see some gains so am willing to try them as long as the risks are not too severe .

Please feel free to suggest anything
Or am i fucked and will never grow on that shit .

Thanks
GZ

it's almost 6 weeks, not that bad...I would do it at 50mg ED though...

[thegame01]

i was thinking originally 75 for 20 days
Would that be long enough or should i go with 40 days and lower doses

GZ

[thegame01]

hey bro's have you ever heard of this ???

I mean shit some people that have aids on AS for god sakes have gained more weight then me according to a study i was readind

I have been weight training for several years and have done alote of research and i think my workouts are ok (theres always room for improvements ) but i think were ok there

I have been tweaking my diet so much ,trying diferent things but i generally eat at least 3000-3500 cals a day and about 300-320 g proteins .i find anymore then that and i gain alote of fat on my lower abs and i still dont grow in lean muscle mass .

This is my second cycle .My first one was 300 deca nd cyp respectively and i seemed to have grown the most on clomid and after the clomid .nothing during my cycle .i thought it was the dose that was too low .

i dont know what else to try damn all i want is to hit a 200 lbs at 10% bf but i cant get there .Actually i have not even seen any strenght gains .Not even 10 lbs on my bench .Maybe a few lbs on some other ones but very little .

My source simply thought that maybe orals would kick my system into gear or something .

here's the big question :::
Is it possible for someone NOT to respond to gear like that
Thanks
GZ

[smalls]

Did you gain ANY water. It really really sounds like you have fakes and need to get a new supplier. I cant tell you if there is such thing as a non-responder, but it will still have some effect. Because your normal androgens have effects (or you would notice).

[bowbow]

I'd be a little leary about ordering anything else from your guy bro, Sounds like both your cycles were fakes. To see gains only on clomid should tell you that. You should have at least put on some water weight. Sorry to here that bro.

[trip]

game,

Don't know for a fact cause everyone is different, yet it is very weird. Especially the gaining on clomid.

Don't doubt anything you say, because as you noted, you are training and eating right.

Know this is not what you want to hear, best best bet is too stay off right now. Why buy gear from source when first gear didn't work?

Two suggestions.

One, don't know where your previous gear came from, yet, try doubly hard to get real human grade gear. The gear you've been getting possibly could be bunk or underdosed.

Two, after off for awhile get test levels checked. You could be one of those guys with very very high natural test levels. Let's say 1,200 ng/dl. So, if you put in 300 deca & cyp, you'd shut down your natural and your body would be operating with less test than usually for 4-5 weeks than last two weeks or so your over your normal into clomid, and maybe why you grew on clomid.

So, you could be one of thos guys that need 1,500 to 2,000 mg a week to grow.

Please do not take this for a fact, this is just a guessing scenario.

It is just your story is weird, been reading boards for years and only have seen one or two like it.

Hoped It Helped
Good Luck

[drob]

i hate to say it, but i think your source is suggesting orals to string you along.With the amount of protein your taking + the calories + the gear you should see some gains (imo). I would find another source before changing anything