I've never used steroids before,what's the best one to start off with.

[bowbow]

Originally posted by StoneColdNTO
Thanks you !!............. I can never for the life of me figure out why someone would refer anybody to another board.....you can learn it all here.

It's kinda like some guy comes into my place of business and asks me a question, so I send him down the street to my competition, do you think he will ever come back and do business with me.....not very likely !!

Very well put.

[MuscleTiger]

Thanks for all your guys help.

I want to take roids to bulk up and look good,but the problem is since I also do MuayThai kickboxing,it could be hard for me to be allowed to fight.I recently heard that martial artists,boxers,kickboxers,etc.from this year on will be checked for steroids,is there anyway of avoiding being detected from doing steroids?

I know that even if one quits steroids after sometime,that with most if not all steroids,they can be detected up to about a year,I can't remember if I read somewhere that there are certain steroids that can't be detected,if this is true,can anyone tell me what kinds those are?

[THE JUICE]

Originally posted by jack hust
bro just do some home work find out what you want to do cut bulk ,,,,,then get some facts on the aas you are interested in learn all you can about side effects gains ,stacks ,anties ,clomid ,nutrition while on , then put a cycle together post it and the bro here will be more than happy to give you there input on your cycle ,,,

I agree with Jack. Do your research first bro. I started back when I was around 17-18 but I was lifting since I was in the eight-grade, so I kinda already built a solid foundation. Then I wanted to know more about roids and diets which took me a while before I tried my first cycle, which I took Sostenon 250 for about a couple of weeks. I got good results from taking Soste. But there are alot of other roids out there for bulking if thats what you want man. Just do a 10 week cycle, stack some other roids with it and remember to take some HGC and Clomid at the end of your cycle so you can maintain your gains. Peace out brother.

[BIG_GUNS_21]

Come up with a cycle YOU think would work from your reasearch. Then post it and ask opinions on it. Other wise, I always take as someone who hasnt put any effort into it, and wants a fast answer. Show people you have done some reading...

[THE JUICE]

Re: I've never used steroids before,what's the best one to start off with.

Originally posted by MuscleTiger
This place is very informative for steroid use.

I intend to start using steroids for first time ever,after I see my doctor,what is the best kind of steroids to use for a beginner?or is just any steroid that builds size good for a beginner?

I would appreciate some help or suggestions on this matter.

Thank-You.

Hey bro theres alot of good bros here in this board. All the advice you need on cycles, opinions, cycle corrections, diets, training, etc. we're here bro.

[Billy_Bathgate]

To answer your question in my own opinions MuscleTiger,

Testosterone of any kind would be the best compound to start off with a beginner. Preferably a longer acting compound such as enanthate or cypionate, or a blend such as Sustanon or Enanthate/Prop blend.

I would not suggest using just a propinate or suspension due to the frequency of injections for a beginner, unless your a real hardcore freak

My reasoning is this. Testosterone, as you will learn from here as you go along, is kinda the foundation for all cycles. You really need to include it in every cycle. Without testosterone in your body problems such as low sex drive can occur. So it would be good to start off with just Test. Later, as you become more advanced you can look into stacking.

I would suggest something in the area of 500-600mg/wk for 10-12wks.. Since you are using somethign that takes aproximately 4-6wks to kick in, if desired, you could run a low dose of Dianabol the first 4 wks to kinda kickstart thing. I would suggest 20-30mg ED for 4wks if you feel this option is necissary.

There is plenty of information on anti-estrogens and post cycle recovery routines on this and other boards. I would read up on them and once you have a pretty solid decision of exactly how you want to run things and what products you decide on, post it for criticism and advice.

[LOCO]

ok, i personally did my 1st cycle 3 moths ago with deca and dbol only (with nolva and clomid at the end)
did it for 6 weeks deca 200-300-400-400-300-200mg/week and 25mg/day of dbol for the 1st 4 weeks
got awsome gains and lost only little afterwards
i should have take some test with it tho, cuz i had a deca dick for a while (sucked big time!) - other than that no acne, or hairloss, or anxiety etc... some gyno however (should have take more of nolva/clomid)

my next cycle i'm thinkign of doing in a week and it's gonna be 6 weeks again with
dbol 30mg/day for 4 weeks
sust 250mg/day 6 weeks
deca 300mg/day 6 weeks

[bowbow]

Originally posted by LOCO
ok, i personally did my 1st cycle 3 moths ago with deca and dbol only (with nolva and clomid at the end)
did it for 6 weeks deca 200-300-400-400-300-200mg/week and 25mg/day of dbol for the 1st 4 weeks
got awsome gains and lost only little afterwards
i should have take some test with it tho, cuz i had a deca dick for a while (sucked big time!) - other than that no acne, or hairloss, or anxiety etc... some gyno however (should have take more of nolva/clomid)

my next cycle i'm thinkign of doing in a week and it's gonna be 6 weeks again with
dbol 30mg/day for 4 weeks
sust 250mg/day 6 weeks
deca 300mg/day 6 weeks

All I can say is I would'nt suggest that.

[BIG_GUNS_21]

I can second this!!!!

Originally posted by bowbow
All I can say is I would'nt suggest that.

[Mudge]

During the offseason you can do stuff that has short detection times, so basically you'd just have to look at detection times. I dont think there is a reliable way to fool the tests, unless your going to put someone elses urine in your bladder, or try to get away with using one of the fake urine stream systems that strap to a leg (to be warmed up), I guess it depends on how closely they are going to watch you.

[MuscleTiger]

Is it true that there is a type of steroid that is undetectable,which some athletes are able to get access to in order to not get caught on the steroid test?

[Mudge]

There is no test for Growth Hormone that I know of, all steroids so far as I know can be picked up. You have to time it, or fake your urine sample, thats your only set of options.

[Drveejay11]

Re: I've never used steroids before,what's the best one to start off with.

Originally posted by MuscleTiger
This place is very informative for steroid use.

I intend to start using steroids for first time ever,after I see my doctor,what is the best kind of steroids to use for a beginner?or is just any steroid that builds size good for a beginner?

I would appreciate some help or suggestions on this matter.

Thank-You.

Anadrol, Halotestin, Tren, and d-bol would be a conservative start!

LOL...........Bro----I am TOTALLY F*CKING KIDDING!!!!!

A good CONSERVATIVE start would be:

1-8 Test or sustanon (250-400 mg/week)
1-8 Deca 300 mg/week
9-11 Clomid Therapy

[Mudge]

A gear test supposedly costs about $600, but if you show up one day 30 pounds heavier they are probably going to pick you for testing.

[mick-G]

I'm in a similar situation, but I want to do a test cyp cycle. Since I'm already getting cyp from Dr., but hes only giving 200mg every three wks. I'm human grade by British Dragon 200mg/ml 10ml vials and adding proviron 50mg ed after 2nd wk of doing 400mg wk test cyp. and then after 2nd wk also adding eq 400mg. I hear though eq/boldebal-H ( is Boldenone Undecylate same as eq?)gives you flu like symtoms similar to sustanon and will make you very hungry. If that is so, I wouldn't want to use it. But I read that it retains most of the muscle post cycle? I would also use clomid at end of cycle. I have read about other AS that I could use like Primo, Deca, Winstrol, or Anavar, but they are too expensive for me to do 300-400mg per wk. Any comments about this cycle? I have been going to various forums including this one, but each forms answers to questions are different from one another and it makes it difficult to make and informed decision.