Debate: Do Anti-E's inhibit gains?

[2Powerful4u]

I read debates about this all over. Some people believe the water and estrogen helps you grow, others think it makes no difference. Iv also read that aromasin lowers SHBG, which would actually free more test and promote growth. What do you think and whats your reasoning? Whats your experience with this?

[pigmeat]

ihave heard that water retention causes strength increase. example: if you did a d-bol only cycle and took armidex ed with it you wouldnt get near the strength gains that you would if you took d-bol alone. Dont quote me ,it is just something i read on a board.I personally run dex every cycle.I want the gains i make to be muscle and stay with me. Not water that pisses itself away!

[Mudge]

The water is one issue, but blocking estrogen to a point is also considered bad, estrogen just like other things that are "bad" have thier place also.

[bigjim33]

i think if you run l-dex at .25mg/day during a cycle you should be fine and the gains affected would be minimal

[superchicken]

i think just about everyone should take some form of aromatose inhibitor, even if its a very small dosage.

yes there are negatives to them such as cholesterol, and less intracellular water, less igf-1, but there are also many benefits, such as reduced/eliminated water bloat, and with water bloat comes high blood pressure and headaches, reduced acne, easier recovery, and less test converted to estrogen, and less estrogen means less fat deposits.

those who want the benefits without the negatives should just take a low dose, both the positives and negatives are dose related.

[BullFX]

here in canada liquidx is so expensive its not even worth it IMO...

i just keep nolva on hand... so far so good

::BULLFX::

[jack hust]

i feel like they just keep water gains down i use something every cycle

[iamdwalrus]

How could decreasing estrogen production inhibit gains when it helps increase free testosterone? Water bloat which is a result of increased estrogen production isn't something I would consider as gains.

[nautica]

Not to sound like an ass. BUT: "Who cares if it hinders gains?"

Yes it will hinder gains to a certain degree - but considering the possible risks of elevated estrogen levels - it is not worth it NOT to take anti-e's.

Or I guess you could apply to the school of thought which several pro bb's have. Let the estrogen go and cut your nipples out when it is time.

Nautica