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I know on paper, a single ester test such as enanthate ran for 12 weeks or so should provide better results than sustanon, but I have now ran 2 of each and have gained much better results with sus when ran as low as 500/wk, 1 every mon and thur. I am trying to put together my next cycle and am debating on whether trying a different single ester test or go back to sus. Does anyone else here gain better on sus? I guess it would smart to just go with what I know works.
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i never heard that logic before .. every one is different , some have awsome gains on sust some on enth... -
I have actually ran sus 3 different times, I wasnt including my first cycle since results are expected to be better. I ran Nile sus the 1st 2 times and then ran Omnas at 500mg/wk which ended up being my best test cycle to date. The 2 enanthate cycles I have ran were both human grade gear, and both were ran at 750/wk, and results didnt match the results from sus.Comment
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Just a theory but since sus is a mixture of test esters, some short some long, The actual amount of test released will be a smidgen more than with the same number of mg of test cyp. It's a simple matter of molecular weight. The smaller esters with a lower molecular weight release more test mg for mg than the larger, heavier esters.
Example: Bare with me. I don't know the actual makeup of sus so my percentages are arbitrary. Let's say that sus is composed of 25% test prop, 25% test isobutyrate, 25% test cypionate and 25% test undecanoate. So 500 mg sus contains 125 mg each ester. Each of these would release an amount of test base that is inversely proportional with their molecular weight. In this case, those numbers would be 105 mg + 101 mg + 87 mg + 81 mg test base respectively or a total of 374 mg test base. Now, take 500 mg test cyp. That would release only 350 mg test base so you get 24 mg more test released from our spidey brand sus than with the same 500 mg dose of test cyp. I know that doesn't seem like much but remember my numbers for the composition of sus is completely arbitrary. That difference would be more if there is a higher percentage of small esters in real sus than in my example.Spidey is a fictional character. I do not use or condone the use of illegal drugs. Any references to steroids or other illegal drugs is purely for entertainment purposes and role-playing.Comment
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i have always had better results from a blend of esters. even when i don't run sust i run a blend of different stuff, such as 250mg/week enan and 250mg/week cip and 50 mg day of prop...
i like spideys explanation and it makes sense...The burden of originality is one that most people don't want to accept. They'd rather sit in front of the TV and let that tell them what they are suppose to like, what they're suppose to buy, and what they're suppose to laugh at. You have Beavis and Butthead telling you what music you're allowed to like and not like, and you've got sitcoms that have canned laughter that lets you know when to laugh if you're too stupid to know when the joke is. People are too lazy and too stupid to think for themselves because America has raised them that way.
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I've always been a believer that sus. was over rated and I've always gone for the logic that you should go with one ester @ 500mg or so a week rather than split up esters with smaller amounts. Also since the esters have diff have lifes it would make your test levels more unbalanced than a single ester. However, in my personal experiences @ least 3 or 4 cycles, the one that i put the most weight on was the one with sus incorporated in it. I was going to use test. cyp. this fall for bulking but i may be switchin to a test blend.Knowledge is power.Comment
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Sust all the way man.Comment
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im tossing around the idea of running sus on mon and thursday, then throwing in 1cc of enenthate with the monday shot.Comment
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