1st Test Cycle and post cycle help

[CubanJuice]

Ok bros I'm probably starting my 1st test cycle in 2 months. I will be doing 500/wk of elmu cyp. I'm pretty much set up and this is what I'll be doing.
Objectives are to drop bf as much as possible and grow some lean bm. Not a bulking cycle. I can bulk without gear eeeasily on high carbs and old fashion cuban food. Was able to bring bf down from 13.6 to 11.6 in 2.5mths and want to go even lower before starting cycle.

Most feared side: Lost of Libido post cycle!

Wk 1-9 cyp 500mg/wk (source sent 19 amps 1 came broken)
Proscar 1.25mg/ED through cycle + 360mg Stand. Saw Palmetto
Idex .25mg/ED through cycle
Nolva at hand.

My sticky point is the post therapy. I'm paranoid about being shut down AGAIN (my 1st cycle was last year deca only at 200mg/wk 10 or 12wk and had NO sex drive for almost 5 months after Clomid. Mind you I'm 25). So, I split between using HCG, Clomid or both together... I've also read mixed results/opinions on both!....I've also read posts where it was recommended to take 50mg fo Clomid throughout cycle to preven testicular shrinkage...

Based on your own anecdotal experiences, what would be the best post cycle you can recommend to get your balls and endogenous test prod back pronto....wich in turn = sex drive...

[platinum]

Hey bro,
Sounds like you got an extreme case of deca dick from your first cycle. I've never had a problem recovering from test w/just clomid and anti-e's. I always use elmu cyp btw...there usually is a couple of weeks at most where I experience a loss of sex drive, but it doesn't last long.

[CubanJuice]

A couple of weeks is nothing after going through months of not having the desire. It was very depressing. I also got a mad case of insomnia for 1 entire month right after the cycle. It was the cycle from hell... all for 5lbs which I know I could've put on natural.... should've listened when everybody told me to run it with test....
Nubian....what's your take with HCG? Some people say it does more harm than good.
Platinum, elmu cyp is regarded as the best cyp out there!

[CubanJuice]

Txs!

[CubanJuice]

What about taking 50mg of clomid ed throughout cycle to prevent ball shrinkage?

[josh_323i]

Originally posted by CubanJuice
What about taking 50mg of clomid ed throughout cycle to prevent ball shrinkage?

does this work? bump

[prolangtum]

Originally posted by CubanJuice
What about taking 50mg of clomid ed throughout cycle to prevent ball shrinkage?

no, HCG will help in this area, but dosing should be moderate (500ius 2 x a week) and some nolva should be ran, maybe 10mg ed.

[CubanJuice]

Txs Pro. That's on top of the Adex right?

[CubanJuice]

I've been considering throwing some IP 50mg winny tabs towards the end of the cycle to help lose some water. What do you guys thing about their winny? What's a good price?

[CubanJuice]

Actually on my deca cycle I didn't eperience much shrinkage, but it did mess up my entire endocrine system really bad... I'm sure test won't cause any loss of libido while on it but is afterwards that I'm concerned with.... my gf will be delighted with that OVERDRIVE side!

[voodoochild]

You most certainly can get ball shrinkage at 500mg test per week. I would go with the 500 iu twice a week of hcg. This is an excellent way to prevent shrinkage and will make recovery much easier and quicker. You can either do it sub q or just throw it in with your test injections.

Go easy on the arimadex. Using too much can play hell with your lipid profile. I would try the 10mg per day of nolva first and see if that doesn't do the trick for you.

[CubanJuice]

And the hcg would be spread to every 4 days also or can I do them let's say sat and sun on weekends?
Would it also make sense to start the hcg from wk 3-11 since I'll be running cyp from 1-9?

[CubanJuice]

Hmm, anybody here used ONLY Nolva for post cycle recovery and at what dose it work the best for you?