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  • #16
    400-500mg of Any sort of Test, preferably cyp or Eth, is plenty. I couldnt see your pics, the link doesnt work, but at your height, weight, and bf%, diet will be 75% of your gains.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by prolangtum
      400-500mg of Any sort of Test, preferably cyp or Eth, is plenty. I couldnt see your pics, the link doesnt work, but at your height, weight, and bf%, diet will be 75% of your gains.
      YES for god sake just do test at 400 for your first cycle. I bet youll get 20 pounds off it. You dont need a fucking gram your first cycle.
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      • #18
        Only test

        Originally posted by motogear
        For a first cycle, all you need is test at 400-500mg/wk for 10 weeks. You should make great gains off of that. I don't really think you need anything else for a first cycle.
        OK thx!
        SuperDave

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        • #19
          20 pounds?

          Originally posted by Governor
          YES for god sake just do test at 400 for your first cycle. I bet youll get 20 pounds off it. You dont need a fucking gram your first cycle.
          are you sure? with 20 pounds i would be satisfied.
          SuperDave

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          • #20
            I agree with Rado too, i'm reading up first and learning fast here from you guys. I will start my cycle when i'm done learning.

            So based on what you're telling me, i'd have to choose between test alone or combined with equipose. Pigmeat told me that i'd need a little more in each cycle to grow. So why isn't my first cycle test only and the second(tripping right here! talking about my second cycle while my test level never exceeded 7 mgs per day) test, equi and dianabol.

            Oh Yeah, Rado you adviced me about my first cycle, could you give me an idea bout what my second could look like?

            Spidey, told me about to do some tests, i can afford it but how do i go from here? can i ask my doc? Also in Holland?

            Ok, about to drink ABB Pure Pro Protein Fluids. It's got 1 gr carbs and 40 grams of whey protein! Yeah!!!!!!!!!
            SuperDave

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            • #21
              I don't know how things work in Holland. Here in the US, I just ask my doctor to schedule the blood tests.
              Spidey is a fictional character. I do not use or condone the use of illegal drugs. Any references to steroids or other illegal drugs is purely for entertainment purposes and role-playing.

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              • #22
                I have to disagree with you guys a little bit here. My first cycle, some 15 years ago, consisted of a total of 400 mg of test at my peak, and 200 mg deca per week. I gained 30 lbs. After training naturally, yourbody is in such a catabolic state that you only need bare min. I bet if you just did 200 mg of test, 200 deca or eq, and 25 mg d-bol you will gain 20 lbs and don't need anything else. If you start your first cycle at 900 mg + orals, where are you by your 4th cycle to get the same gaines - 2000 mg?

                Why not start at the lowest point and see how your body reacts. You will most likely find after being natural that 500 mg + orals is plenty. In addition, you never know what kind of side effects you will experience from your first cycle. Most likely gyno, water retention, and maybe acne and some moodiness. Start slow and then pyramid upward if you are not pleased with your results. I personally don't even like test for a first cycle. 200-400 mg of deca per week + 25 mg of d-bol is this best cycle in wotld for a first time. It will probably give you at least 20 lbs and make you feel like a million bucks

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                • #23
                  I would run rado's cycle and I would not run sustanon simply because enanthate works just as well and it's not as expensive. Sust is overrated IMO......don't forget your milk thistle, cranberry extract and ALA as well, be kind to your liver

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by SuperDave


                    Oh Yeah, Rado you adviced me about my first cycle, could you give me an idea bout what my second could look like?

                    wait until you finish your first one before you think of your next. I know, I use to think that way...

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                    • #25
                      OK guys, thx for your info.

                      Based on what i know now i'll think i'll go for the 500 mg test per week. Making sure i have the nolva and clomid on hand before i start. If this isn't to my satisfactory i'd go what Rado and others adviced me(test, equi, d-bol).

                      Another subject which i dont fully understand is the frontload, can you guys tell me some more about it?

                      Ok, gonna lay down on the sofa now with chicken and water cuz those stiff leggeds yesterday made sitting on this chair a painfull experience.

                      SuperD
                      SuperDave

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