b12 or sterile oil to dilulte prop??

[hongkongguy]

first of all,i'm prone to any other gear injection pain big time.i am gonna do prop and fina very soon.but i don't know which one is work better to dilute them.some guys say sterile oil will do the trick,but some other guys say don't like to get any extra oil in the body.

some guys say use b12 with it,because we need it. some guys say water base is not ok to mix with gear,but some guys say water base like b12 do better than sterile oil to dilute the prop???!!

making me crazy with this problem,tell me what you think.

[buyb12]

all will work to cut pain ...I'm prone to say b12 first choice, then bact static water . ....I'm not a fan of injecting any more oil than you have too .....but I have added oil to a batch or 2 of mine.... but mixing the tren and prop should do the trick .....

[tyron14]

I thought prop and fina are oil based, B12 is water based. I recall you can't mix oil- and water-based products together?... Or am I wrong? Will they mix?

[rado]

Originally posted by tyron14
I thought prop and fina are oil based, B12 is water based. I recall you can't mix oil- and water-based products together?... Or am I wrong? Will they mix?

you can mix them, they just wont sit right in the needle, that's all, but it wont hurt you though.

[buyb12]

actully the mix of water and oil based gear works really well .....the water thins the solvents...IE ba bb.....and more often this is the cause of pain .....this is why the b12 ((( which is water based ))) does a good job while giving you all the other bennifts of b12

[Keiser]

I think this is a good question, i'm interested in hearing more responses. Diluting prop with water based b12?

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[WeirdAl]

Did it last night. Diluted my prop with eq, fina and b12 (from buyb12). Went really well, some soreness today (injected 3cc total into my quad), but about the same as when I was doing 1cc each of cyp and deca).

[WeirdAl]

.75cc prop, .75cc fina, .5cc of eq, and 1cc of b12.

Will probably adjust that down to .6, .6, .4, and 1cc to hit 420mg, 420mg, 560mg ew of the gear (and staying with 1000mcg of b12 per day

[hongkongguy]

thanks guys.i have both sterrile oil and b12,so i will try each of them....

[buyb12]

Al try heating the gear under hot water after you have drown up everything you are injecting ...( be sure to cap the syringe )

At 1 cc B12 added you shouldn't be having any pain unless you are moving the neddle around....

I do 1ml prop @125mg , 1ml tren 100mg 1ml enth.333mg and 1ml b12 every day......painless....( this batch of prop was a killer )

just to let some know part of the pain is from crystalizing hormone after the oil is absorbed ..water based gear mixed with oil based gives the added liquid to help disolve any crystalization

[hongkongguy]

man...buyb12...you are everywhere...thanks anyway

[jipped genes]

in my experience i have used both and i have much less discomfort using oil (if any). i get real damn sore using b12 and its marginally better than straight prop IMO. as for the extra oil that is somthing to think about . i am shooting 1ml prop mixed with .5 - .75 ml of oil depending on the location. i have been on since early may doing ed injects and have had no abcesses or other volume related probs with frequent injects. everybody's different b12 might work well for ya.

[WeirdAl]

This seems to be working really well. I think my pain was simply from the relatively large (22g) pin I used. I hit my chest today for the first time ever with a 25g, we'll see how that goes

[WeirdAl]

So far so good. Did a 2nd chest injection today... heated under warm water, and then shook (everything turned a pretty red) before I injected. Everything mixed up good, but started to seperate. The b12 makes everything go really smoothly through the 25g pin (the oil is usually really slow). The last .3cc or so of oil had seperated back out while I was shooting, though, and it went slow through the pin.