ultimate stack?

[Ronin]

Side effects are as much a consideration as growth.

I'd say 1500 test, 1500 primo, 50 DBol ED all for 8 weeks, then 250 test 1500 primo for the next 8 weeks. GH, slin + T3 - on and off, used for 16 weeks.

Primo is great cosmetically, is a CNS depressant so will take the edginess away to a great degree from the high dose test + DBol. Primo also improves collagen production offsetting the injury risks of the test + DBol, GH ran concurrently should pretty much even it out to an off cycle injury risk. The 8 weeks low test + primo is again for collagen and for cosmetics - I would focus on cutting up the gains from the last 8 weeks, the GH would massively help here and further strengthen tendons etc.

[kolprit]

thganks alot guys u helped me alot

[pigmeat]

test,d-bol, deca,slin! If you cant grow on that....you cant grow. I wouldnt run tren and deca together. May give you gyno which will be hard to combat, plus your nuts will be raisons.shuts down too hard.
If i was you i would seriously reconsider running 17aa as for 15 weeks! Definetly not healthy..... But who cares about sides....or your health.