to those who stay on all year

[DiamondBling]

Originally posted by CuBaNMuScLe
Have fun destroying your liver, kidneys and heart. Thin out the herd!

Obviously u've never heard of people doing responsible doses year round

[Massive1]

lol

[jack hust]

i gain year round it is all in how you eat and train bro when you hit a stopping point up the cals it works everytime for me

[makavellie23]

jack hust do you up your doses or change your gear when you go year round.

[jack hust]

i go up and down say 1.5 grms test for 10-12 weeks then 500 for 5 then up agin etc

[Billy_Bathgate]

Originally posted by CuBaNMuScLe
Have fun destroying your liver, kidneys and heart. Thin out the herd!

Do you know what a blood test is?

Do you know why responsible users that stay on for long periods use them?

Thats kinda a null point your making there...



BTW...to the person that asked, E2 is estradiol...or in basic terms estrogen

[Scottexercise]

I agree w/Jack Hust on this, That is exactly how I cycle. Maintenance is about 400-500mg test p/wk and turn it on when you want to grow. 1500mg p/wk or better. Changing drugs does help and its an instinctive thing. I'm 39 yrs old, been juicing for 17 yrs using that philosophy. I'm a hard gainer and thrilled w/my results. If you read and talk to pro Body builders that is exactly how they do it. I have my blood work done at least twice a year and all is perfect. Your choice bro, if its not for you, cool do what makes you happy and no body here will flame you for it.

[makavellie23]

thanks scott i appreciate it. im still thinking about it.

but i know deep down in my muscles that i will end up jumping back on early and staying on hahahah

[machine99]

Tried staying on year round last year at a low dose, simple cycles. Started with fina, switched to tne, switched to fina. This year I'm going to use 8 week cycles(short esters wks 6-8) and 4 weeks off(clomid/nolvadex/Long r3 IGF-1/slin)

[CuBaNMuScLe]

Dont do it wood. There are side effects to hormonal use for a reason. Of course the year round juicers are gonna defend what they do. Ever hear of steroids enlarging a certain muscle called the "heart?" I am sure you dont want a severely enlarged heart when your 50-60 years old. Of course though, thats only certain ppl right? So go for it.

[easy]

I'm on yr round do to HRT. I'm sure your thinking whoopee as those doses are small (100mg/wk). Well, you right but b/c I never come off I don't loose gains. My nutz quit after my vasectomy so at 28 yrs old, I have to get mine from the doc. No biggie though. My point is you can stay on yr round with minimal to no additional sides with the exception of smaller nutz. 3 8-10 wkrs and HRT the rest of the time. I'll match my bloodwrk #'s to anyone elses that says you can't stay on all the time.

[tony_canuck]

the truth is that a certain amount is tolerable in people. Now to say that 500mg at a low point is fine, well that depends on the person. I don't stay on all year, I like 20-25 week cycles, and I've found that when I started i did 6-8 week cycles my gains were not as good as longer runs. I find that the body will normalize the size gains better over an extended period of time.

Anyway, to each his own. I don't do year round just longer runs, but I like a break. I'm not saying it's the best way, it's what I've found works the best for me.