Deca/Test vs Winny/ Test Cycle

[palisades]

I am 165 pounds with very little body fat, about 5'10. What are the pro and cons between a Deca/Test cycle versus a Winstrol/Test Cycle. I am already pretty lean, I am looking for 10-15 pounds lean muscle mass. Would I be better off going with the Deca and then cutting down if necessary, or would I be better off with the winstrol for my first cycle along with test? This is obviously with the usual nolvadex/clomid on hand. Thanks guys.

M

[jack hust]

deca and test will put on some weight and a good first cycle

[HeHateMe]

I'd choose deca & test...

5' 10" 165 is pretty slender and deca/test would be better for sheer mass gains which is what I'd recommend for someone in your situation.

However, are you sure you've exhausted or come close to exhausting gains you can make naturally? It seems to me you have a lot of growing you could experience naturally w/o drugs.

[rado]

Deca/Test/Eq.........all those are great for a beg...

[pigmeat]

deca is good for the joints, winny makes them ache! plus test +deca is the best one, two combo for size and strength. Sounds like you skinny anyways, so dont worry about cutting. Worry about growing first.

[prolangtum]

Deca and Test is much safer, your hairline, HDL and liver will thank you for it

[Governor]

how about just test for a first cycle?

[HeHateMe]

Originally posted by Governor
how about just test for a first cycle?

Oh yeah...

I take back my original comment. I didn't see it was his first cycle. Test only @ 400-500mg/wk is the way to go.

[GearTripper]

dependent on your age; why not include Deca in your first cycle? i would say for someone over 30, Deca in your 1st cycle should be ok at low doses of course.

[MYRICK]

Originally posted by Governor
how about just test for a first cycle?

thats what i was thinking especially since ur onlylooking for 10-15 pounds

[MYRICK]

Originally posted by GearTripper
dependent on your age; why not include Deca in your first cycle? i would say for someone over 30, Deca in your 1st cycle should be ok at low doses of course.

imo a first cycle is a first cyle doesnt matter how old u are

[GearTripper]

Originally posted by MYRICK
imo a first cycle is a first cyle doesnt matter how old u are

i agree to some extent... i just think adding deca at a young age (-22) isn't or may not be as needed as much for someone say in their late thrities. the added strenth could benefit someone in their later years moreso than someone in their early twenties... maybe?

[BiggerStronger]

I say do Deca and Test.

400-500mg Test Enanth or Test Cyp
300-400 Deca

BTW How old are you? How long have you been training? What does your diet look like each day?

My opinion on you doing steroids are dependent on those answers.

[someday]

I found the general consensus to be Test/Deca for a first cycle. I'm 34 yrs old and have been lifting and eating as well as I can for sometime now - just hit a plateau. This is what I ended up at...

Deca 400mg/wk wk 1-10
Test 500mg/wk wk 1-10
Dbol - 30mg/day for wk 1-5

I have been taking ldex all along to ward off any gyno and I wanted to do the test with the Deca because I am happily married and want to stay that way! The Dbol was a great kick-start as the Test & Deca take awhile to kick in. My joints have never felt better! There is nothing worse than when you are busting your ass and get set back a month or two because of a tweak here or tweak there. Sucks getting older! Strength has come back quickly (it had disappeared after 12 weeks of cutting). Oh, and I have experienced next to no sides at those doses (slight increase in acne, but hardly noticeable). The other thing you may want to consider is that I have found most believe Winny injections are more effective (than taking it orally) and those will be ED injections. Don't know if you want to start right out with ED or even EOD injections. I went with Test Ethanate so that I could shoot once/wk if I had to (although I ended up splitting it into 2cc's every 3-4 days). Good luck with whatever you decide.

[elitegymrat]

i think at 160 u should be eating alot more to see if that helps. juice aint the answer it
justs helps