The Big Talk

[Jay C]

well i knew it would happen, my gf had the talk with me. tonight on the phone we were talking about our futures and after some other talks about sauce she said she had something to run by me. well it was basically. why are you trying to make your body look good on the outside and hurting it on the inside. like enlarged heart from steroids, kidney and liver functions, and prostate enlargement. she is really worried that if i stay on for a while that when im 50, if we are still together that is, that i will be wishing when i was younger that i wouldnt have done steroids. i understand exactly what she is saying. and i am really confused. i stepped back and always said i dont want to live to 75 but seriously, my dad is going to be 54 and he is still active and everything. i dont want to have illnesses that keep me from being active when im 50. heart disease is an illness that runs in my family also. my dad and uncle have both had heart attacks, and no one runs more than my uncle, we some do but he runs 10 miles everymorning and a few in the evening. my grandpa died of cancer of the stomach and had other problems i didnt know about.
i guess im just real worried about if i keep doing cycles that i will really mess up myself later down the road.

this cycle has already given me the results i wanted, people notice im bigger and im 210 lbs solid, i never thought i would be over 190 lbs unless i was fat, i was always the skinniest kid.

anything will help guys, i guess im just a little paranoid thinking that i can harm myself and not be able to watch my children grow, that is once i have some.
thanks. JC

[ironman]

There is alot of great info here! Take advantage and learn all you can. Yes steroids can cause problems if used wrong or abused. Then again I personally know 2 people who have been on straight for 15 and 22 years respectively. Now they don't do huge amounts of test year round for sure, but they do not take off time either, and one is 56 years old and is in great shape with little or no health problems. Now I am in no way saying to do this, as I would not, but the point is if you are smart I believe you can use for a long time without major problems. hope this helps. By the way...when you think you know alot about AS, you should probably learn more. I knew alot before I came here and I have learned alot since.

[GettinBIG]

Total # of deaths proven to be linked to steroids-1. And steroids have been in common use since when, the 1950s?
I like those odds.

Also there is obviously a world of difference between intelligent use
and abuse.

In fact there is a way of addressing your concerns-the various blood tests etc. that measure your bp and other health indicators. These tests don^t lie and if u are concerned heck go ahead and get em done.

[Jay C]

thanks guy. all i anymore is read up on peoples posts. i have learned so much here, i also thought i knew some about AS before i came here, i had read alot of the books and mags, but here its personal experience and shit that people have heard. i dont believe all that books say because they are biased to get people away from steroids. i do believe those that are here doing them themselves.
Getting BIG, i love you signature, that is totally correct.
well guys i guess my only bet is to get my gf educated like i have been trying. maybe she wont understand right now, but she will back anything i want to do as long as i am not HURTING myself for the long run.