My Cycle and Diet (Please Help!)

[Conan69]

Ok Gents, I am starting my next cycle when I get back from Vegas
in about 1 week. I need you help to shape my cycle and diet before I begin

Currently:
6'
260lbs
bf: ??? ~10%, you guess by my pic

Goal:
To add approx. 20lbs keeping or lowering bf %
Keep in mind, my current diet is horrible, no supps, vitamins, I only eat about 3 meals a day.

1st phase of my cycle
Week 1-10 M, W, F injections
Each shot will contain
1cc t-400
1cc Ara-Test
1cc Fina 150mg/ml
Plus 1/4cc Liquidex orally EOD
Nolvadex on hand.

(* Either 150mg of Anadrol weeks 6-10
or
75mg of Dbol weeks 5-10) Need some imput here.

Weekly Totals
Test – 1950mg
Fina- 450mg

All my meals are prepared for me, I have a deal with a local gourmet/health food deli. My personal assistant prepares my supplements.

Diet:

Meal 1 7:30am Food P: 50-60g C: 50g
Extras: Thermorexin, Vitamins

Meal 2 9:30am Supplements P: 50-60g C: ~8g

Meal 3 11:30am Food P: 50-60g C: 50-60g

Meal 4 1:30pm Supplements P: 50-60g C: ~8g

Meal 5 3:30pm Piece of fruit, Thermorexin

Workout 3:45 to 5:00

Meal 6 5:15pm Supplements P:75g
Extras: 150mg Dextrose, 15-25g Creatine, Vitamins

Meal 7 7:30pm Food P:75g C:100-125g

Meal 8 9:30pm Supplements P: 50g

Totals
Protein: 400-440g
Carbs: 390-450g
Fat: ~30g
Cals: ~ 3700


I need you imput
Keep in mind this is only my first phase!!!!

[prolangtum]

Solid frame, about like me. Id guesstimate your closer to 13-14% bf.

Thats a lot of test. I would also use the fina eod, not 3 days a week.

As for diet, I would drop off about 75-100g of carbs and replace it with good fats. This should keep you leaner, yet allow the same number of cals without raising insulin so much.

[Mike P.T.]

That pic is so old. Show us some new pics bro I seen those over at elite over a year ago. Either way you're a big guy but I think your calorie intake is too low and your not taking in enough fats as well.

[Conan69]

Originally posted by prolangtum
Solid frame, about like me. Id guesstimate your closer to 13-14% bf.

Thats a lot of test. I would also use the fina eod, not 3 days a week.

As for diet, I would drop off about 75-100g of carbs and replace it with good fats. This should keep you leaner, yet allow the same number of cals without raising insulin so much.

Thanks I will throw in a nother cc of fina saturday night

What kind of fats, some fish oil or something?

THis whole diet thing is very new to me, normally I just focus on the "supplement" part of my training

Thanks for the imput

Like I said I had no idea about bf% I am a little leaner right now.

[rado]

Re: My Cycle and Diet (Please Help!)

Originally posted by Conan69
Ok Gents, I am starting my next cycle when I get back from Vegas
in about 1 week. I need you help to shape my cycle and diet before I begin

Currently:
6'
260lbs
bf: ??? ~10%, you guess by my pic

Goal:
To add approx. 20lbs keeping or lowering bf %
Keep in mind, my current diet is horrible, no supps, vitamins, I only eat about 3 meals a day.

1st phase of my cycle
Week 1-10 M, W, F injections
Each shot will contain
1cc t-400
1cc Ara-Test
1cc Fina 150mg/ml
Plus 1/4cc Liquidex orally EOD
Nolvadex on hand.

(* Either 150mg of Anadrol weeks 6-10
or
75mg of Dbol weeks 5-10) Need some imput here.

Weekly Totals
Test – 1950mg
Fina- 450mg

All my meals are prepared for me, I have a deal with a local gourmet/health food deli. My personal assistant prepares my supplements.

Diet:

Meal 1 7:30am Food P: 50-60g C: 50g
Extras: Thermorexin, Vitamins

Meal 2 9:30am Supplements P: 50-60g C: ~8g

Meal 3 11:30am Food P: 50-60g C: 50-60g

Meal 4 1:30pm Supplements P: 50-60g C: ~8g

Meal 5 3:30pm Piece of fruit, Thermorexin

Workout 3:45 to 5:00

Meal 6 5:15pm Supplements P:75g
Extras: 150mg Dextrose, 15-25g Creatine, Vitamins

Meal 7 7:30pm Food P:75g C:100-125g

Meal 8 9:30pm Supplements P: 50g

Totals
Protein: 400-440g
Carbs: 390-450g
Fat: ~30g
Cals: ~ 3700


I need you imput
Keep in mind this is only my first phase!!!!

welcome to FG...fina I would drop to EOD IMO...test? a shit load of it if you ask me, but your a big boy anyway....if you have your diet in check, you can get great results from less test, as you said that your diet sucks, well increasing gear will not yield better results, just wasting money...someone your size should be eating at least 4K a day, if not more...good luck

[Conan69]

Originally posted by Mike P.T.
That pic is so old. Show us some new pics bro I seen those over at elite over a year ago. Either way you're a big guy but I think your calorie intake is too low and your not taking in enough fats as well.

ex girl friend took my fing cameras, I am a cheap bastard, dont want to buy a new one. I will borrower my friends digital and take some pics as soon as I get back from Vegas

I am tripling my cal intake, dont you think if I went higher I would just get fat, shouldnt I increase gradually????

[Conan69]

Re: Re: My Cycle and Diet (Please Help!)

Originally posted by rado
welcome to FG...fina I would drop to EOD IMO...test? a shit load of it if you ask me, but your a big boy anyway....if you have your diet in check, you can get great results from less test, as you said that your diet sucks, well increasing gear will not yield better results, just wasting money...someone your size should be eating at least 4K a day, if not more...good luck

I pretty much do a gram of test year round, so I think i have to double it for some results

[prolangtum]

Good fats to consider are Olive Oil, Flax oil, fish oil caps, natty peanut butter, avocados etc. If your tripling your cal intake, I woudl definitley start off slow. Up your cals from current about 300-500 per week, or else the first few pounds put on will be fat.

[prolangtum]

Originally posted by basskiller
I thought you were just going to stick with test nowadays...
anyways... to get your bf down
w/o days
3984 calories per day
301g protein ed
401g carbs ed
131g fat ed

6 meals ed
each meal consisting of
664 calories per meal
50g protein per meal
67g carbs per meal
22g fat per meal

off days
2255 calories per day
200g protein ed
267g carbs ed
43g fat ed

6 meals
each cosisting of
376 calories per meal
33g protein per meal
45g carbs per meal
7g fat per meal

I like the workout days, but, i think protein should remain consistent as should fats, i would drop the carbs down to 200g on non workout days, but everything else the same as far as protein and fats.

[Conan69]

Gents, Thank you for all your great info, I will get some flax seed oil and work on the diet a bit

[prolangtum]

what the hel are you eating now to maintain? If that diet is triple your current you have a weird ass metabolism.

[Conan69]

Well lets see
on my way to the office I get

Bagel with humus
OJ
Muffin


For lunch I have

Turkey sub and fruit salad

or a chicken cesar salad


for dinner I have
Steak and potato
or like chicken and rice or stuffing

or some kind of subway sub

I work normally 12 hours a day or so,

But I really want to get back into my diet and training like I was in college

I do play football and I am a submission fighter

I dont know how I am maintaining, 2 months ago I added anadrol to my test (1g per week) I went from 255 to 270
but then I had serious relationship problems and I fell back to 250
( I wasnt eating, training and I missed about 2 weeks of shots)
but now I am back up to 270 (current diet and 1g test per week)

So I dont know

I hope with a great diet and better training and some more supps

I can get to 280

[prolangtum]

you must have great genetics, i couldnt maintain my left arm on that diet, im sure you will get nice and solid, keep carbs and fat moderate and protein high, which your obviously lacking right now

[massiveone]

I'd give my left nut to have your metaolism, you big ass mofo.

Your cycle looks solid bro. What you REALLY need is a dedicated workout partner like yours truly to keep your ass bustin' in the gym, bro! lol Best thing you got going for you right now is the deal you have with the restaurant to make your meals, as well as your assistant to keep up your supps.

Have fun in Vegas my friend. Roll some dice for me while you are there. Catch you when you get back. Be my turn soon to play catch up with you on they cycle (and about 70 pounds bw too!)

[Conan69]

Originally posted by massiveone
I'd give my left nut to have your metaolism, you big ass mofo.

Your cycle looks solid bro. What you REALLY need is a dedicated workout partner like yours truly to keep your ass bustin' in the gym, bro! lol Best thing you got going for you right now is the deal you have with the restaurant to make your meals, as well as your assistant to keep up your supps.

Have fun in Vegas my friend. Roll some dice for me while you are there. Catch you when you get back. Be my turn soon to play catch up with you on they cycle (and about 70 pounds bw too!)

You are right bro, I am lost without ya. We had some awesome workouts.... In the future bro.

Dont worry, you are like a juice newbie again after being off for a whole year...

Anyway bro... I will give you a call from Vegas to let you know whats up.