Between the cycles...

[Massive1]

Eventually I'll be coming off of my cycle, which is something that I would rather not do. Considering the cost and the health risks I think it's best that I should. I do plan to go on another cycle which would be my third. What I am trying to do is get gigantic and cut while retaining most of the gains. The problem that needs to be solved is "getting to the next cycle while remaining healthy,huge,and cut".
My current cycle consists of 1-4dbol 30mg,1-12 sust 750mg, 1-12 dec300mg, proviron and a winny chaser. I'm on week 7 and my gains are rediculous. My weight went from 193 to 230 @ ht of 6ft, and strength is up tremendously.
The stuff and logic I plan to go with between the cycle is (1) 12 weeks sort of clean (2) hcg (3) clomid (4) nolva (5) 10mg am dbol bridge(6) clen. I guess that's what it should take, but when and how much of this stuff during the twelve weeks off does one need to do? Or what is recommended to take between a cycle?

[bigjim33]

damn! 193 to 230 in 7 weeks! awesome job, how much is water/fat?

[Massive1]

Jim, I can only guess 6-10 pounds being water. The proviron maybe helping becasue I haven't been bloated at all. I'll find out my bf% tomorrow and let you know the results. Massive1.

[bigjim33]

Originally posted by Massive1
Jim, I can only guess 6-10 pounds being water. The proviron maybe helping becasue I haven't been bloated at all. I'll find out my bf% tomorrow and let you know the results. Massive1.

that is really good bro, keep it up

[Billy_Bathgate]

My post cycle/ bridge...

After cycle at appropriate times...

If you were to put it in wks it would look like

wks 1-5 Aromasin 25mg ED + 10mg NolvaED
wks 1-next cycle 10mg Dbol AM
wks 1-1.5 750iu's HCG ED
wks 1.5-4 300mg clomid day 1, 100mg 10days, 50mg 10 days
wks 5-next cycle 20mg Var

Clen if you feel like, just regular 2on/20ff or add keto and run it the whole time. Im not a clen fan though.

That is how I run things and have near perfect sucess everytime. I get blood work too btw so this isnt a guess. Im usually good to start again by wk 10, but it depends on the cycle really.

[slobberknocker]

I like the way you outlined that Billy. Ofcourse, with the var and the dbol you can't return to 100% natural test. production, but you come damn near close enough.

[Massive1]

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If you were to put it in wks it would look like

wks 1-5 Aromasin 25mg ED + 10mg NolvaED
wks 1-next cycle 10mg Dbol AM
wks 1-1.5 750iu's HCG ED
wks 1.5-4 300mg clomid day 1, 100mg 10days, 50mg 10 days
wks 5-next cycle 20mg Var

That post cycle seems reasonable BB ,TY for some of the ideas.What is aromasin and what does it do? I'm not quite sure why it's necessary. The clomid schedule looks like the ritual I see on the boards. If somebody has 30 50mg tabs that leaves 6 short. The Var can be combined with the dbol concurrently or right after one another
so that's an ok idea. Those two should hold the mass on and keep strength up. All I know is cold turkey doesn't cut it. If anybody would like to share how they run their post cycle gig feel free to share.

[mike1107]

I like VAR between cycles...

[jack hust]

congrats bro, i stay clean from cycle to cycle never lose my pumps or gains i am lucky i guess though i might use slin after this one myself imo

[Massive1]

What to do between a cycle IMO is the most important thing. Lifting weights isn't even something I want to do off cycle cause there isn't that same effect.
Quote: never lose pumps or gains
Jack to someone that isn't an actual user that reads nicely. But that's like saying you stay high when you don't get high anymore. Slin is a doable option.

[jack hust]

like i said i am lucky i never lose my drive to get to the gym when off cycle either ,you can gain mass on or off if your diet is correct and you got your tranning down not saying you dont just stating my 2 cent on the subject i am a beliver in taking a complete break from aas between cycles myself but that is what works for me bro ,i dont know why but i keep my gains and pumps even off genitics ? no idea just lucky as hell blessed if you will.

[Massive1]

LOL jack. Ok you must be fortunate. I'm also curious as to what your other cycles constisted of and how you ran them. You are definetly doing something right. My cycle now is pretty nice I should expect to only lose a few pounds. But there's no way I could keep the weights feeling so light without the gear. I mean i can close grip 225 for reps while on, while off trying to do that on flat bench with wide grip is difficult. To some extent it doesn't make a difference because women only care how nice you look not how strong you are.

[Stackt]

Damm ! Thats some rediculous gains alright . Keep traning hard and keep us updated wit your results !

[jack hust]

all my cycles include test as a base 500mg and up depends,fina injust about everyone of them ,whinny everyother one 50-100mg ed,deca in quite a few 400-600mg,eq in the ones deca was not in 400-800mgs,proviron evryone whole cycle 50-100mg ed,prop 100mg ed ,t-3 ,armi everycycle ed 50-100mcg ed whole cycle 2 weeks past clomid,nolva when i cut along with an as, gh up to 6iu but most of the time i can only afford 2-4 iu as long as 6 mths...hcg..the list goes on i keep my protein up at 500 while on 350-450 while off i eat every 2 hrs no matter what ,but i have allways been big i allways got comments on my legs and shoulder when i was young befroe as was even a thought and i have allways had stamina who knows i am scotch irish and we are all hard heads maby its i am to bull headed to slow down i dont know but i am sure i am not the only person here who is lucky ..try working the overtime i have to put in for aas and food it sucks thank god i get a 2 hr lunch to get to the gym

[Billy_Bathgate]

Massive. Aromasin is an anti-e and as of now it is the current best based on strength.


Slin and GH could also be great in between cycles.