Not happy with first cycle, need help designing the second.

[Systema]

My first cycle was EQL deca at 300 mgs/week and test enan. at 400mgs./week. I gained about 15 pounds, which is less than I expected ( poor genetics I guess). What would you bros recommend for my second cycle? I was thinking eq, test, and dbol. I am 24 yrs.,5'10",215lbs, about 12% bf.

[Governor]

how was your diet and training. thats more than enough gear to do some healthy growing on a first cyce.

[Systema]

Originally posted by Governor
how was your diet and training. thats more than enough gear to do some healthy growing on a first cyce.

Training was good but I probably could have used more protein. I would say I got about 250 grams of protein per day. I will definitely up that next cycle.

[34pumped]

yep bro your nutrition is as big or bigger as your gear intake....

[obscured78]

more calories

[FLEMS]

how much did you want to gain ?

[Systema]

Originally posted by FLEMS
how much did you want to gain ?

At least 20lbs. Anyone have recommendations on the 2nd cycle?

[smalls]

Suggestion=test 500mg/week
EQ 400mg/week

frontload both for one week at twice the above dosage. JMO.

[JohnnyB]

I like a test enan at 500mg and eq at 400mg. Bro make sure you get 350-400 grams of protein with 75-80% of that from whole food and 50-100 of those from red meat. Get a 100 gram of fat in there, add what ever extra you need from avocados, flax seed oil, safflower, canola, raw almonds and natural peanut butter.

JohnnyB

[jshoty]

nutrition is more important then gear imo, make sure your eating enough, or your just pissing away your money. 15 lbs is pretty normal weight gain off first cycle, some gain more and some gains less.

[Mudge]

3 ways to gain weight in life, eat more, water retention, or lower activity levels.

250g of protein is not enough for me when natural, much less on gear. I prefer 1.5g per pound as a generic minimum, up to 2g for me.

[rado]

Re: Not happy with first cycle, need help designing the second.

Originally posted by Systema
My first cycle was EQL deca at 300 mgs/week and test enan. at 400mgs./week. I gained about 15 pounds, which is less than I expected ( poor genetics I guess). What would you bros recommend for my second cycle? I was thinking eq, test, and dbol. I am 24 yrs.,5'10",215lbs, about 12% bf.

Test-500mg a week-1-10 or 12
Eq-400mg a week-1-10 or 12
D-bol-35-50 mg ed week-1-5 or 6

followed by your post.....if you don't have your diet in check, you wont get what you want from any cycle, you should of gained your most from your 1st one though, but that's how we all learn....good luck

[prolangtum]

15 lbs is a good gain

[lxorl]

to gain eat like crazy.... Deca is better for size than EQ. and like said above go atleast 500mg/week on test.

say

DBOL
DECA i did 600/week when i used it.
Test - front load with 1cc prop ED first 10 days, along with eneth, or cyp...

i personally like tren.. nice lean gains.

just my thoughts... but 15lb isnt bad for the first go... what did you keep.

[jack hust]

i think you need alot more cals in your bulk diet get your carbs up 400 and protein 400 cal5000 try test 750 a week and fina 75 mg ed 10 weeks i think you will be happy