bulikng and cutting in one cycle

[keanubelgium]

Hi guys
I wanna do a steroid cycle of 12 weeks, consisting of 8 weeks bulking and then immediatly 4 weeks cutting
Is this wise to do? Or is it better to do them in different cyles?

Cycle would be like this
week 1- 8 : test enant 800mg
week 1-8 : boldenone 400 mg
week 1-4 : naposim 50 mg a day
calories 1000 above maintenance 50 cal/30 prot/20 fat

week 9-12 : test enanth 800 mg
week 9-12 : boldenone 400 mg
week 9-12 : stanozolol (inject) 100 mg ed
calorie would be normal (maintenance) 50 prot/30 cal/20 fat
week 9-10: eca + cardio
week 10-11 : clen + cardio

Please comment/criticise. Thx.

[kane.d3]

i wouldn't use enan to cut.

[Josh]

I dissagree with kane completely - you can cut on any steroid. But i would run it like this
Enth 1-10
Eq 1-10
Winny 6-12 at a lower dose like 50 or 75mg Ed depending on your cycle expeierience
Clen 8-10 and 13-15
ECA 11 and 12
Start clomid the day after last winny shot

[BigD]

I like it josh's way better, and I do it that way myself. My next cycle will be like that. Test enth/eq/tren enth for 12 weeks, ending with profina/winny, or profina/masteron for 4 more. I'll gain 20lbs and keep it ALL this way... better than gaining 25 and loosing 10IMO.

[keanubelgium]

Thx for the response..Should I remove the D-bol for the first 4 weeks? What about the calories/cardio for the 4 last weeks (cutting)?

[prolangtum]

I would choose one or the other, bulk or cut. This is going to put a lot of stress on your body, adding lbs quickly, cutting down on fat, then asking it to recover, in a period of 4 motnhs or so.

[BigD]

I should also add that i do LONG cycles, and do not try to gain it fast or lose it fast. I don't try to drop weight at the end of a cycle, just the water-weight, if any, while I "harden up". I've been on 11 months almost, I compete, so my usage is not normal.

[rado]

Originally posted by prolangtum
I would choose one or the other, bulk or cut. This is going to put a lot of stress on your body, adding lbs quickly, cutting down on fat, then asking it to recover, in a period of 4 motnhs or so.

I agree here too, but you also have to keep a good clean diet whether your bulking or dieting....well of course it has to be cleaner so when you cut

[IntensityX]

It's all about diet,regardless what you use,you need to get your det in check,whether it be a bulk or cut cycle the diet is the key.

There are certain roids that are good for cutting or bulking but it all comes down to what you eat,so watch your diet.

Eat,Learn,Train,Grow
IntensityX

[buyb12]

right on ..bulk when bulking and cut when cutting....you will see much better results.....cutting take real discipline.....you don't sound like you've done a cutter before ...... or you wouldn't even think of cutting after 8 weeks of bulking. There are how ever different combos that will help you take off any extra water ...swiching to prop and tren in the last 4 weeks will help. remember it's all diet......

[BigD]

That's what I mean B12.... I do basic bulkers, then switch to say profina/winny the last 6 weeks. I loose water, harden up, and lose a *bit* of fat. Then I used to come off. Now I'm almost on again, this is 11months now, however I think I will take a good 3-4 months off after this huge bulker I'm doing. I may need a break... but who knows, i'm crazy anyway

[buyb12]

bigD have you been using hcg every 4 -8 weeks ...I did 25 weeks and had a real hard time rebounding ...clomid didn't work nore nolva I lost every thing I gained and then some on that cycle ....I had to use hcg to get the boys back ......funny things was My sex life was fine ..It took a while to get a nut .....second one was damn near impossible some days. The lady didn't mind at first...

I run tren in every cycle I will ever do .....IT gets me hard as rock and helps to keep gains....I grow better with strong androgens , Anabolics thin me out ......

[BigD]

Yup, HCG and the boys are WAAAAY huge. Next time not so much though, I recover very quickly and I got some *****y mood swings from the HCG!