HCG experts..how to run during and/ or after cycle?

[ThePlaymaker]

Did a search, but a lot of diff opinions... those damn iu's throw me off. Say you running prop, tren, and finish with winny.if you needed to bring your boys back how much, how long? Thanks Guys.....

[maximus_pecs]

I prefer to run 500iu twice a week during a cycle to keep testicle atrophy from ever taking place. After a cycle but before clomid/nolva therapy I take 3000 IU divided into 3 doses over a week. Do not take HCG during clomid/nolva therapy as it will further suppress LH production and reatoration of the HPTA to a normal state.

considering your current cycle does not contain any long ester compounds you will go in to clomid/nolva therapy the day after your last injection. In this case I would run HCG at 3000-5000IU the last 2-3 weeks of the cycle. I ove varying amounts beacuse you want to use the least amount possible as over use of LH can cause your testes to become less sensative to LH either natural or synthetic.

If you are in the middle of the cycle and atrphy has already set in then take 1000IU and wait 24 hrs to see if testile size has increased. If not try another 1000-1500IU in another day. This should bet you back. then you can continue with 500IU twice a week to keep atrophy from setting in again.

Tren really shuts you down hard so it may take multiple HCG treatments to regain full size.

[ThePlaymaker]

Thanks Max Pecs, That was the info i needed.....nice Bro

[thehamme]

Has using 500iu every week helped with post cycle recovery?
Alittle faster? No crash?

thanks
thehamme

[maximus_pecs]

The issue with post cyle recovery is two fold. One is obvioulsy to restore the HPTA so that natural LH levels are restored and test production is triggered testes. If the testes have atrophy it will take your natural LH levels weeks to bring them to full size and to a point where they can produce testosterone close to normal levels. Taking HCG during a cycle keeps atrophy at bay hence as soon as your bodies HPTA starts to come around your testes can prododuce larger amount oftestosterone then testes that have to recover from atrophy first.

To exactly answer your question yes it does help you recover quicker as your testes are at or near full size and have been producing testosterone when HCG is injected.

A good analogy would be; pretend that you had your arm in a sling and it was totally imobile for 12 weeks. Muscle atrophy would set in and once you removed the sling 12 weeks later you would have to work out that arm for weeks to catch up to where it was.

By taking HCG your taking that arm in a sling and giving it a work out 2 days a week for the entire 12 weeks. Obviously you will be able to get back to maximum strength quicker with this method.

the whole point of using HCG during a cycle is to avoid atophy and speed recovery and hopefully avoid a hard crash after your cycle. Keep in mind that your HPTA still has to start recovering and signaling the pituatary to relase LH in significent amounts. But at least when your HPTA does come around your testes will be ready to go.

Another way to use it post cycle if using long ester compounds such as cyp and eth or deca is to take 5000IU in divided doses for the 2-3 weeks before clomid/nolva therapy begins.

[thehamme]

Thankyou very much, great post!

thehamme