b12 ??

[AceDaBoss]

Originally posted by tinytim
ill let ya know ....allthough i am currently bulking....(eating a fuck ton)

Then if it works we know it "Really Works" if you can remember to, shoot me a PM.:2gunsfiri :2gunsfiri Thanks tt

[buyb12]

I don't think you want to go subQ with oil .....becareful you may end up with an absess. keep us posted if your seeing fat loss .

I'd bake and filter it if its Vet........

here's a good article for you

Introduction
Vitamin B12 is a member of the vitamin B complex. It contains cobalt, and so is also known as cobalamin. It is exclusively synthesised by bacteria and is found primarily in meat, eggs and dairy products. There has been considerable research into proposed plant sources of vitamin B12. Fermented soya products, seaweeds, and algae such as spirulina have all been suggested as containing significant B12. However, the present consensus is that any B12 present in plant foods is likely to be unavailable to humans and so these foods should not be relied upon as safe sources. Many vegan foods are supplemented with B12. Vitamin B12 is necessary for the synthesis of red blood cells, the maintenance of the nervous system, and growth and development in children. Deficiency can cause anaemia. Vitamin B12 neuropathy, involving the degeneration of nerve fibres and irreversible neurological damage, can also occur.
Functions
Vitamin B12's primary functions are in the formation of red blood cells and the maintenence of a healthy nervous system. B12 is necessary for the rapid synthesis of DNA during cell division. This is especially important in tissues where cells are dividing rapidly, particularly the bone marrow tissues responsible for red blood cell formation. This is important for muscle tissue growth.If B12 deficiency occurs, DNA production is disrupted and abnormal cells called megaloblasts occur. This results in anaemia. Symptoms include excessive tiredness, breathlessness, listlessness, pallor, and poor resistance to infection. Other symptoms can include a smooth, sore tongue and menstrual disorders. Anaemia may also be due to folic acid deficiency, folic acid also being necessary for DNA synthesis.
B12 is also important in maintaining the nervous system. Nerves are surrounded by an insulating fatty sheath comprised of a complex protein called myelin. B12 plays a vital role in the metabolism of fatty acids essential for the maintainence of myelin. Prolonged B12 deficiency can lead to nerve degeneration and irreversible neurological damage.
When deficiency occurs, it is more commonly linked to a failure to effectively absorb B12 from the intestine rather than a dietary deficiency. Absorption of B12 requires the secretion from the cells lining the stomach of a glycoprotein, known as intrinsic factor. The B12-intrinsic factor complex is then absorbed in the ileum (part of the small intestine) in the presence of calcium. Certain people are unable to produce intrinsic factor and the subsequent pernicious anaemia is treated with injections of B12.
Vitamin B12 can be stored in small amounts by the body. Total body store is 2-5mg in adults. Around 80% of this is stored in the liver.
Vitamin B12 is excreted in the bile and is effectively reabsorbed. This is known as enterohepatic circulation. The amount of B12 excreted in the bile can vary from 1 to 10ug (micrograms) a day. People on diets low in B12, including vegans and some vegetarians, may be obtaining more B12 from reabsorption than from dietary sources. Reabsorption is the reason it can take over 20 years for deficiency disease to develop in people changing to diets absent in B12. In comparison, if B12 deficiency is due to a failure in absorption it can take only 3 years for deficiency disease to occur.
B12 has very low toxicity and high intakes are not thought to be dangerous

[tinytim]

its vet grade......red in color .....but when i shake it up i look just as if i was shaking water ......doesnt seem thick enough to be oil .....it also shoots realy fast .... i duno .....i didnt think that vet grade could be water ....if anyone knows let me know ....i got it from a vet supply web site out of Cali...if ya know whom im talking about......
tiny

[buyb12]

vet is oil it's just a lower viscosity than usp 27 (human grade) vet is usp 24 and can have up 6% inpurety by law.......I hope it hasen't separated. please be safe and bake and filter it.

It would be great for business if you were to get an infection or an absess...I don't want to see that happen....be safe and err on the side of caution....

[tinytim]

should i just bake my 100ml botle ??? how should i filter?

never did this befor

[buyb12]

whatman filter and a new sterile vial......you will need a few filters and a 20ml syringe and a sealed 100ml vial ...

bake it first then filter ..... the vial it came in at 250 in the oven for 45 min. then filter . go over to basskilleronline.com and read the fina links to see how to filter and you will find a supply company to get you stuff you need to do the job.......be safe ..I'm glade to see your taking this seriously....

[FLEMS]

what is the main reason you guys are taking b12?...energy or fat loss???????..it was vague to me

[kidkoala]

No need for sterile filtering, It is already sterile! PS. don't buy from "buy B12" unless you want to pay 20x the price for human stuff. PM me if you need a rediculous vet B12 website.

[AceDaBoss]

If I were you I wouldn't go through the hassle of filtering the B12 if you haven't done it before. Just get some more. You can find it pretty cheap if you look around and save yourself the headaches of playing Chemist.

[SMACKAVELI]

FYI - I've been using Human Grade B12 from Sicomed S.A. Lot #07021234

[spidey]

Originally posted by buyb12
whatman filter and a new sterile vial......you will need a few filters and a 20ml syringe and a sealed 100ml vial ...

bake it first then filter ..... the vial it came in at 250 in the oven for 45 min. then filter . go over to basskilleronline.com and read the fina links to see how to filter and you will find a supply company to get you stuff you need to do the job.......be safe ..I'm glade to see your taking this seriously....

I wouldn't bake it if I were you. Speaking as a chemist, I am unsure of the thermal stability of cobalamine. You could end up destroying it.

If you are worried about sterility, simply buy a 0.20 micron sterile filter and filter the material into a sterile vial. Both of these things (filter and vial) can be had online pretty cheaply.

0.2 micron filters are what cell biologists use to sterilize media (which has to be absolutely sterile). It is small enough to filter out 100% of any bacteria inluding even staph or mold spores. Baking is simply a waste of time and effort.

[prolangtum]

I used some human grade b12 off cycle, i noticed little of anything.