Clomid only cycle

[crimsonice5656]

Hey guys,

I was reading on another board about someone using clomid to help increase their strength, cut up a little, and be able to be on very close to a drug test because of the short detectability time. I was wondering would it be worthwhile to use clomid to help increase strength during the summer if steroids are not available?

thanks
mike

[prolangtum]

Maybe like a 10-15% increase, money would be better spent on a qulatiy pro-hormone

[YellowJacket]

Originally posted by prolangtum
Maybe like a 10-15% increase, money would be better spent on a qulatiy pro-hormone

Did I read this correctly?!

[prolangtum]

ive changed my mind somewhat on prohormones, you bastard

[YellowJacket]

Originally posted by prolangtum
ive changed my mind somewhat on prohormones, you bastard

And rightfully so......

[WSURAIDER]

there are much better alternatives than taking a woman's fertility pill, lol. The only reason I would see a clomid only cycle is if maybe you were on gear for awhile, came off and ran a proper postcycle, then got bloodwork and found your natural test was still low.

[crimsonice5656]

thanks guys,

I'm looking for something that will give me increased strength while not increasing my weight at all. My coaches want me 15 pounds lighter as is, so weight gain is not an option. I'm thinking about using moleculars 3-alpha, and then IN-Rage preworkout (5-AA). I am however worried about being NCAA drug tested, and was wondering how long do you guys think i should be off of to pass. And since both 3-alpha and 5-aa covert to dht, is there any need for clomid/nolvadex post cycle?

[YellowJacket]

Who's to say 3-alpha and 5-aa wont add some weight? Its mainly about your diet and if you're in a hypercaloric state or not. But you will need some 6-oxo or novladex post cycle, any conversion has the chance for sides.

[DickRenegade]

my 2 cents

i know a pharm D pretty well and she told me that taking clomid only CAN increase muscle mass and strength and is the reason why it's a schedule II drug. it increases your natural test production. apparently the "guido's" as she called them, were using it alone to get bigger. this lady really knew her stuff and i believe her.

dick

[HeHateMe]

Re: my 2 cents

Originally posted by DickRenegade
i know a pharm D pretty well and she told me that taking clomid only CAN increase muscle mass and strength and is the reason why it's a schedule II drug. it increases your natural test production. apparently the "guido's" as she called them, were using it alone to get bigger. this lady really knew her stuff and i believe her.

dick

Clomid isn't scheduled.

And as far as a 'clomid cycle'...

I have done such a cycle in the past before trying steroids. It did harden me up a bit, and it did work to improve strength somewhat, nothing drastic however. You certainly won't gain close to 15 lbs because of it.

The emotional sides can be tough to deal with for some people. I did experience that unfortunate side. One good side is that if you stack it with some lecithin, you'll be blowing loads like a pornstar...atleast I was

[DickRenegade]

yeah

it's not scheduled but there's no way in hell a pharmacist would fill a script for it for you. they'd have you in handcuffs in a matter of days.

dick

[HeHateMe]

Re: yeah

Originally posted by DickRenegade
it's not scheduled but there's no way in hell a pharmacist would fill a script for it for you. they'd have you in handcuffs in a matter of days.

dick

Actually, if you happened to be suffering from low testosterone levels and went to your doctor he could prescribe you clomid for 'off label use'. If you presented him abstracts detailing clomid's effects on helping to restore natural testosterone production in men, or if he already knew of it being used in that way, there'd be no problem.

And I doubt they'd throw you in handcuffs over clomid. I had a package from overseas containing clomid opened up by customs in the past and they just sent it on through.

[DickRenegade]

hmmmm...

i think you're right... maybe this lady knew what i was getting at and was basically threatening me. she probably knew i wanted to start writing scripts of it for friends. hehehe...

dick

[THE JUICE]

Originally posted by WSURAIDER
there are much better alternatives than taking a woman's fertility pill, lol. The only reason I would see a clomid only cycle is if maybe you were on gear for awhile, came off and ran a proper postcycle, then got bloodwork and found your natural test was still low.

exactly what I had in mind bro.

[raybravo]

u might want to look at various things here , first of all , how much of an effect is 10 % ( i dont even think that much of an increase is going to happen to a normal healthy male) is going to have on ur over all muscle hypertrophy ? the body is manufacturing very very lil testosterone , 10 % of what the body makes is next to nothing .
also , look at the effects of clomid on shbg , increases shbg ! decreasing free testosterone , actually its one of the pathways thro which tamoxifen and clomid help htpa recovery , but decreasing free test . so , work it out , its not worth it .