BigD's massive bulker!! Come dissect!

[Scottexercise]

Bro, I may have come across too harsh, but do we not have calorie requirments for the juice we put in our bods to make it work? I'm sure we can agree there. So my point is to not waste all that good shit and money,by putting in more than you can actually feed. It was you who said your cycles prior to this weren't that high, so I think all will agree that some of this may be overkill. Again bro, not trying to flame. I respect your goals.

I am 5'9" 235 lbs I stay between 8-10% I am a hard gainer who has done just about everything except slin. Been juicing for 17 years. Never did that kind of a cycle! But maybe for those goals thats what you gotta do. I ran Health clubs for 13 years so I've had a chance to talk to lot's o pros (Tom Platz, Lee Haney, even your buddy Lee Priest guest posed at my last show) so having said all that I have never talked to any one who has done a cycle like that. All I"m saying is you can reach your goals no prob! why try to do it on one cycle OK? I'm in your corner Bro!

[Mike P.T.]

Originally posted by Scottexercise
Bro, I may have come across too harsh, but do we not have calorie requirments for the juice we put in our bods to make it work? I'm sure we can agree there. So my point is to not waste all that good shit and money,by putting in more than you can actually feed. It was you who said your cycles prior to this weren't that high, so I think all will agree that some of this may be overkill. Again bro, not trying to flame. I respect your goals.

I am 5'9" 235 lbs I stay between 8-10% I am a hard gainer who has done just about everything except slin. Been juicing for 17 years. Never did that kind of a cycle! But maybe for those goals thats what you gotta do. I ran Health clubs for 13 years so I've had a chance to talk to lot's o pros (Tom Platz, Lee Haney, even your buddy Lee Priest guest posed at my last show) so having said all that I have never talked to any one who has done a cycle like that. All I"m saying is you can reach your goals no prob! why try to do it on one cycle OK? I'm in your corner Bro!

Not saying I agree with his choice but he does have experience and it is HIS choice which I am sure he has thought out. I do agree that is is alot but there are ALOT of guys that do cycles like his. I have been juicing for only 3 years on and off and I know personal friends of mine who have done cycles higher than his even so for someone like you to say you have never met anyone who has done a cycle that much means that you have been lied to given your experience in this game. Again though I do agree with you that the doseages are high but I'm sure he knows what he's doing and what can come from the cycle good and bad.

[Scottexercise]

Valid point, it is His choice, just trying to encourage the thought process. Let's think on this for a sec. If our first cycle is our best cycle, and we have to progresivelly increase our doses to continue with our progress, what will his future cycles look like? A little food for thought. Not trying to talk Big D out of it, if he is committed he is committed. Matter of fact if he does do the cycle, I'd love to hear about the results and his own personal feed back on it obviously. I think he's got a lot o sack just to think about it, I just wonder if he will think he got everything out of it that he hopes he will. Good discussion, You guys are all thinkers!

[BigD]

I'm pretty set on doing it, I'm starting as soon as I can get my tren enanthate in and made. I'll take pics off-cycle, and throughout as updates, also bloodwork done baseline and at 4 weeks for liver/lipid profiles as well. I must agree with Mike P.T. though, if you've been around a lot of pro's, you KNOW they all have done a lot more than this, and do it often. I know several guys at my own gym that do over a gram of test a week and are smaller than I am and they are 5'10". I'll keep you all posted when it starts, wish me luck!