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  • #16
    i have never had any joint pains from winny,I do notice to get alot of muscle cramps from it though?

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    • #17
      Cramps You are probably dehydrated. Increase Potassium and Lots and Lots OF H20.

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      • #18
        Maybe back it down a bit...run it at 100-125 for a max of 3-4 weeks. I don't think the extra 25-50mg will make a huge difference in overall gains. From personal experience I can say that you can get really good gains off of low doses of winny 20-35mg with a good diet and training routine.

        If you can hang with the 150mg ed and your blood work checks out ok then more power to ya. That much winny will probably impact your lipid profiles significantly and most likely your liver values as well. Joint pain is another bad side effect...as everyone else has said.

        Could it be that the gear is really underdosed???

        Anyways, Health is the most important thing...big muscles are worthless when your insides are rotting away...

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        • #19
          bye bye liver i would lower teh dose and take many protectants for teh liver

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          • #20
            thats is really a high dose for 17aa,and not just the joint pain would i would worry about,its the injection site pain.3cc's a day would have me paralyzed

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Juicemonkey101
              I think if you only did it for 2-3 weeks MAX it would be okay....
              I deff. do agree with juicemonkey U should be ok...
              Make sure U have the liver and kidney protection bro...
              Biotec....

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              • #22
                Get your liver values tested after running Winny at 150MGs/ED for 3 weeks. That is my only advice.

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                • #23
                  I really don't understand the logic behind that. Does your dad work at a w/v factory? Just kidding Bro! Seems like you are trying to grow from a cut up drug. May want to re-eval your goals. You can get crazy big from test and boldenoe and you will stay nice and hard and guess what ? You will have plenty of liver left over to do more cycles! I respect your desire and your goal so you should respect your bod! Scott

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                  • #24
                    suma root and lots of water ......

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by prolangtum
                      i tried 100mgs/ed for about 4 days, i quit when i felt like an arthritic who couldnt open a jar of pickles
                      Im with prolangtum, 50mg a day killed my joints, i can't imagine 150.
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