raw powder versus lab manufactured gear

[coverage1]

Hi everyone. I've got a question. I hear alot about scammers...people selling under-dosed gear, professionaly-packaged gear not containing the listed product, not sending product after receiving payment, etc.,

I also see quite a few questions from buyers who purchase gear (tabs of Winstrol, for example), post a picture, and ask, "hey, does this tab look real?"

My question is this: If a bootlegger gets raw pharmaceutical powder and chooses to package it on his/her own, the active ingredient my very well be of the highest quality (fully-dosed, sterile, etc.), but the "packaging" would likely be rudimentary at best (capsules in a zip lock bag, for example). Such packaging would obviously look "low budget", but the gear itself could still be of excellent quality. What then is the criteria used by buyer when looking for gear?

Do most users look for "pretty packaging" and hope like hell the gear is real? Are people generally suspicious of low budget packaging (despite the fact that certain overseas manufacturers sell gear by the kilo for a FRACTION of the cost found even at Mexican pharmacies)?

Thanks for any information you can give. Thanks, too, for a great resource.

coverage1

[coverage1]

Thanks, Crank. I'll keep that in mind. Have a good one.

[deepinu]

i have a great source...so i prefer to buy raw powders and make my own injectables..tis way i know what im getting at what dosage and all that

[cali]

Re: raw powder versus lab manufactured gear

Originally posted by coverage1
...Do most users look for "pretty packaging" and hope like hell the gear is real? Are people generally suspicious of low budget packaging (despite the fact that certain overseas manufacturers sell gear by the kilo for a FRACTION of the cost found even at Mexican pharmacies)?

Thanks for any information you can give. Thanks, too, for a great resource.

coverage1

I'd say most people go by reputation. If an underground lab has a great rep, how the goods are packaged isn't going to matter so much.

[DerCribben]

Originally posted by deepinu
i have a great source...so i prefer to buy raw powders and make my own injectables..tis way i know what im getting at what dosage and all that

Without disclosing a specific source, where do you get bulk powders? What kind of credentials do you need to have? Can you get things like Oxandrolone, or Parabolan ( )?

[HeHateMe]

Originally posted by DerCribben
Without disclosing a specific source, where do you get bulk powders? What kind of credentials do you need to have? Can you get things like Oxandrolone, or Parabolan ( )?

A lot of Chinese hormone supply houses carry just about every raw material ingredient of every steroid/drug you could ever imagine at very cheap prices.

They're not really that hard to locate. However, the idea of having a white powdery substance addressed to myself being opened by U.S. Customs isn't too enthralling.

You also have to worry about 'bait n switch' tactics, i.e. you pay for oxandrolone and get winny instead.

Obviously, someone's getting the stuff through with all the UG Labs popping up.

Now if a trusted domestic was offering powders at reasonable prices, that'd be something to consider.

[DerCribben]

Would they be able to get away with selling those compounds "for research purposes only" stateside?

[AustinTX]

Originally posted by DerCribben
Would they be able to get away with selling those compounds "for research purposes only" stateside?

Don't think so. None of the research stuff you can get is a controlled substance. Even for large research institutes, use of controlled substances has to be very well documented, etc.

[DerCribben]

Originally posted by AustinTX
Don't think so. None of the research stuff you can get is a controlled substance. Even for large research institutes, use of controlled substances has to be very well documented, etc.

What about Clen?

[HeHateMe]

Clen isn't controlled...

so there's a bit of a loophole there

[DerCribben]

Just when it's in spiropent, etc.. form right?

[AustinTX]

Originally posted by DerCribben
Just when it's in spiropent, etc.. form right?

It's still not controlled. Clenbuterol is a bit of a strange case. It used to be approved by the FDA, then the approval was removed because the 1/2 life was too long, and there were better options. So it isn't legal for human consumption, but it isn't controlled either.

T3, nolva, clomid, arimidex aren't controlled either.

HCG is a bit of another wierd case becuase it is an injectible...