Sustanon release more like a single ester?-Andy13

[prolangtum]

Looks much more like a single ester than thought before

[prolangtum]

Andy13:
The model of sustanon compared to esters of various other half lives shows that sustanon is much, much, more like a single ester testosterone than you might think. I too believed that blood levels would be more difficult to control, compared to TE for instance.. until I plotted this..

I think there is A LOT of misconception about sustanon. There is an infamous thread that has been claimed by more different authors than I can count. I'm not talking about paraphrasing either. This gets cut-n-pasted, word for fucking word, and the sad part is that is it ridiculously erroneous and misleading. It's pretty much entirely shyte except for the few instances where universal, 'impossible-to-fuck-up no-matter-what' type of 'good' information such as "inject more frequently" is given.. But even then, it is buried in so much illogical garbage that the principles are skewed. I hate this post.

This is a huge reason why many BBers do not understand the concept of the ester. I'm not talking about knowing "longer ester= longer half life, shorter ester= faster acting. Knowledge of (only) this trivial information is dangerous. I remember when I first learned about esters and had only this understanding.. I thought I knew everything there was to know. It turns out that this isn't even the half of it.

Back to my rant about this infamous sustanon post, the author clearly does not understand how esters work. The common misconception that I (and probably many others) had once is that in sustanon, the prop releases first, and then the phenyl prop, followed by the longer esters (but later). After all, the longer esters don't kick in until week 3 or so, right? Nothing say's "I have no fucking clue about esters" quite like the latter statement..

This fundamental lack of understanding is something I feel is important, and I have made it my life-long goal to take the time and try and explain this (100's of times) to those who have been misinformed. A good many of them don't give a shit. They want the bottom line, after all, who gives a shit about esters during their 10-month winter hiatus from the gym? I can certainly appreciate that... AAS mentoring isn't for everyone and everyone shouldn't do it.. The problem is that it is usually these dudes (who care only to know where to stick the pin) that are the first one's to regurgitate the shit they heard yesterday, thus doing their part to perpetuate the cycle of ignorance…

Next time, I’ll tell you how I really feel about the idiots in this sport who litter the boards with filth and plagiarized garbage..

Andy

[prolangtum]

Bump for all the misconceptions of sustanon, although its still overpriced, lol

[rockandroll]

I'll be the first to admit that I thought sustanon was a multi release breakdown of 4 types of tests. I would be interested to know why the 4 don't release, breakdown, and have differant concentrations.
Just one of my conceptions was the prop in sustanon was active for several days and that's it, and that you didn't really have a steady and constant level of overall tostesterone in your system until about the 3rd week, after twice weekly injections.
So if I'm reading this right, why would I use sustanon instead of just enanthate?

[scorpion]

good post prolangtum! I like sustanon [well its the only AS i have ever taken ] not that $$$ IMO....well compare to enath and cyp and ect ya your right its costly

[prolangtum]

Originally posted by rockandroll
I'll be the first to admit that I thought sustanon was a multi release breakdown of 4 types of tests. I would be interested to know why the 4 don't release, breakdown, and have differant concentrations.
Just one of my conceptions was the prop in sustanon was active for several days and that's it, and that you didn't really have a steady and constant level of overall tostesterone in your system until about the 3rd week, after twice weekly injections.
So if I'm reading this right, why would I use sustanon instead of just enanthate?

Its not saying sustanon is better than Eth or Cyp, its just disputing the misconception that your blood levels are all over the place.

[BigD]

I still like enth, I do not get nearly the results from the equivalent dosage of sust, and it's 4 times the price of pre-made enth, 10-12x the price of homebrew!

[rockandroll]

I guess what I'm asking is doesn't sustanon give you some immediate results because of the Prop component and more stable levels from the other components over time, with Prop spikes for 24 hours or so, so that if your timing your workouts with your injections your taking better advantage of the Prop component.
Would I get better results from 250mg twice a week from sustanon or Eth in your (our others) opinions?
I always considered sustanon to be a mini 4-stack of AS (all test of course) giving some kind of balanced breakdown over time?

Originally posted by prolangtum
Its not saying sustanon is better than Eth or Cyp, its just disputing the misconception that your blood levels are all over the place.

[prolangtum]

you may feel some of the test quicker with sustanon, but gains in the end shoudl be the same, mg for mg, the test is close to the same once the esters are off