Anabolic CLen

[Josh]

Ok Ive read somewhere that if you run Clen 2days on 2days off

"The anabolic effect of clenbuterol only becomes apparent after approximately four months when gains will be made of up to 10 % on your T2 muscle fibres, which make up about 8 % of your skeletal muscle tissue"

So is that why people say clen is slightly anabolic or is the above statement false?

Also wouldnt receptor downgrade occur without ketofin if you ran 2days on 2days off? Or is that enough time for the receptors to recover?

[rado]

clen should be run with 2 weeks on and weeks off followed by some ECA or Xenadrine...

[Josh]

Originally posted by rado
clen should be run with 2 weeks on and weeks off followed by some ECA or Xenadrine...

i know but this is an interesting thing i read and i wanted some feedback but u got ur post out of it lol

[rado]

Originally posted by Josh
i know but this is an interesting thing i read and i wanted some feedback but u got ur post out of it lol

sorry, I posted this on another thread, check this out

[HeHateMe]

Originally posted by Josh
i know but this is an interesting thing i read and i wanted some feedback but u got ur post out of it lol

i think rado has different icons he clicks on with set responses LoL

speeds things up so he can move on to the next thread

[Josh]

Originally posted by HeHateMe
i think rado has different icons he clicks on with set responses LoL

speeds things up so he can move on to the next thread

lol @ hehateme
but thanx rado im having trouble reading it tho its really small print

[rado]

Originally posted by Josh
lol @ hehateme
but thanx rado im having trouble reading it tho its really small print

when you download it as a word doc. view at 150%, it will work, sorry

[HeHateMe]

Originally posted by alittlewhiteboy
i heard that there where mild anabolic properties exhibited in rats or soemthign, i'm lookin for the study i foudn right now. .. if i remember correctly it's nothing signifigant. . it got me all excited when i first read it, i thought that iw as gonna get stronger and leaner.. .. i'll post it as soon as i find it

I think I recall the study you're referring to. I believe they used absurd doses though, doses that would never even be considered when it comes to humans.

[Josh]

like what?

[The REAL Bobo]

Originally posted by alittlewhiteboy
i was posative i book marked it, but aparently not. .. regardless. . . i remember the same thign, that the doese were simply not proportional.

Elevated IGF-II mRNA and phosphorylation of 4E-BP1 and p70(S6k) in muscle showing clenbuterol-induced anabolism.

Sneddon AA, Delday MI, Steven J, Maltin CA.

The Rowett Research Institute, Bucksburn, Aberdeen AB21 9SB, Scotland, United Kingdom. aas@rri.sari.ac.uk

Muscle wasting affects large numbers of people, but few therapeutic approaches exist to treat and/or reverse this condition. The beta(2)-adrenoceptor agonist clenbuterol produces a muscle-specific protein anabolism in both normal and catabolic muscle and has been used to limit muscle wasting in humans. Because clenbuterol appears to interact with or mimic innervation, its effect on the expression of the neurotrophic agents insulin-like growth factor (IGF)-II and H19 and their putative pathways was examined in normal rat plantaris muscle. The results showed that the well-documented early effects of clenbuterol on protein metabolism were preceded by elevated levels of IGF-II and H19 transcripts together with increased phosphorylation of eukaryotic initiation factor (eIF)4E binding protein-1 (4E-BP1) and p70(S6k). By 3 days, transcript levels for IGF-II and H19 and 4E-BP1 and p70(S6k) phosphorylation had returned to control values. These novel findings indicate that clenbuterol-induced muscle anabolism is potentially mediated, at least in part, by an IGF-II-induced activation of 4E-BP1 and p70(S6k).

[AceDaBoss]

I read Clen was more an anti catabolic than Anabolic.

[bigdude]

What are you guys talkin about?

I get jacked off my clen cycles

[prolangtum]

Originally posted by AceDaBoss
I read Clen was more an anti catabolic than Anabolic.

Ding Ding

Its about as anabolic as ingesting your semen. The doses as was said before were insane in horses.

[prolangtum]

With Ketofein, i would run the clen for 6-8 weeks, the stimulatory affect will wear off after a few days, but fat burning will occur for the span of the time on.

[maki riddington]

It actually may have carry some sort of effect in terms of anabolism as it does exert an effect on the beta-3 receptors. So, I wouldn't rule out it's effects just yet.