Why is it bad for 2 orals?

[Josh]

LOL - But seriously - Androl/Winny stack would be tough on the liver but then why does noone bat an eye when someone goes Winny/Clen/T3?

[BigD]

clen and T3 aren't 17aa, hence they are not hepatoxic silly! However, I still believe that 2 orals is fine, or 3 if you want, it's the overall dosage that matters. 50dbol and 50drol is easier on the liver than 150 of drol, so I'm doing 50/50 next cycle just for fun

[Josh]

but arnt they still absorbed in the liver - just like any other meds can raise liver values?

[BigD]

Yes but clen and thyroid aren't easily destroyed by the liver, so they dont' need the extra protection of a 17aa group to protect them. It's that extra 17aa group that the liver has to work hard to cleave off, and that's what makes those orals( winny, dbol, drol, etc.) more hepatoxic. Clen/T3, etc, pass through relatively unscathed from first-pass effect, and therefore aren't 17aa and don't normally cause any liver enzyme elevations. It's only when you start talking about 2 17aa's at once that people flame you

[bigjim33]

yeah what bigd said

[Josh]

k i was jw cuz a doc told me if u take prescript meds on a normal basis that that can elevate liver values so it just got me thinking