Noob question

[HumaLabs]

(Background/goals: Would like to put on as much weight/gain as much strength as possible, up to a solid 25-30 pounds.)
For a young guy that has never run a cycle before(virgin), would it be beneficial to run a strong PH and proper pct, in order to get a feel for the effects/results of a baby-test boost. Or would it be more beneficial to man up and just run the typical beginner test-e 12 week-er with proper pct?
I read tons of mixed results on crap websites about random PH's so I'd like FG's opinion.

6'4
200~ lbs
12-15% Bf probably.
(Shit stats I know)

[wutlisstrice]

Re: Noob question

I would go with the latter,i never did ph,but all the guys I know did it swear by the results,i just think gear is better man

[BABY1]

Re: Noob question

How old are you?

[HumaLabs]

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How old are you?

Nineteen, coming up on 20.

[mfdvr]

Re: Noob question

I've done both the PH and a test cycle. If I were to do it all over again, I'd start with the test, no PH for sure....
The PH made me feel lethargic. Granted there were some gains, it was nothing like the test. Also, my liver enzymes were cranked for over a month after the PH. On the test, strength went way up and I was horny as hell ALL THE TIME. Almost to the point of being overly distracting...but great anyway. Granted the PH are legal but in my opinion, much harder on the body. Get your pct on hand before you start anything and do lots of research, this site will help you a lot.

[mfdvr]

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I just saw you post on being 19. I'd wait a bit and max out your natural gains first. You probably didn't want to hear that.....

[FUZO]

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I wouldnt reccomend any gear at your age and stick with PROHORMONES for now.I dont want to see you at that age to do any type of steroids.Listen to a old timer.Stay far away from Steroids until many years.You have a PM coming

[HumaLabs]

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I just saw you post on being 19. I'd wait a bit and max out your natural gains first. You probably didn't want to hear that.....

No, that's fine. I'm not looking for advice to simply justify an action that I've already decided on. I really wanted legitimate opinions.

[6p6]

Ahh man please reconsider doing either. So many great ways to maximize natural growth at your age. The quick fix is not the answer. I waited until I was 24 boss. Glad I did.

That being said if your going to do it. My suggestion after you have studies and read and done more studying and reading and you think you are ready That's the time to read more.

I can't give an opinion either way because neither is wrong. I used prohormones long before AAS but to be honest back then I doubt they were worth the money.

[HumaLabs]

Re: Noob question

Ahh man please reconsider doing either. So many great ways to maximize natural growth at your age. The quick fix is not the answer. I waited until I was 24 boss. Glad I did.

That being said if your going to do it. My suggestion after you have studies and read and done more studying and reading and you think you are ready That's the time to read more.

I can't give an opinion either way because neither is wrong. I used prohormones long before AAS but to be honest back then I doubt they were worth the money.

I figured that my intentions were more sound than others who have made mistakes with AAs at my age, and it seemed more justifiable; however, if everyone says no, then there's a reason. I'm not deaf to sound advice from vets. I appreciate all of the replies.

[BABY1]

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I figured that my intentions were more sound than others who have made mistakes with AAs at my age, and it seemed more justifiable; however, if everyone says no, then there's a reason. I'm not deaf to sound advice from vets. I appreciate all of the replies.

Smart person you are, Fuzo was in his 30s before he did anything, and believe me, he looked fantastic years before that from the hard training he did.

[suprfast]

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How old are you?

Was just about to ask that. Good question and probably the most important.

[HumaLabs]

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Smart person you are, Fuzo was in his 30s before he did anything, and believe me, he looked fantastic years before that from the hard training he did.

That's good to hear. It is my responsibility to push my own natural limits first, and I should know better more than anything. Thank you again though!

[BABY1]

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Was just about to ask that. Good question and probably the most important.

I think this is also the first question that needs to be asked. I may have never used but I have learned a whole lot from Fuzo and all the reading I do!! This is the age whre males are in their prime and imo. should not supp with anything. The choice to use this young is just the beginning of a journey that is hard to stop. Why mess with your hormonal system at such a young age? What you do at this age affects where you may be in 20 years. Same goes for HGH, one should not even consider this at this age unless they have a documented medical reason to do so.

[tazzy21]

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as mentioned in many many othet threads.... you're young so you have lots of test pumping through your system. I have used tbols, anavar....... if I were you... maybe use something a little weaker that is less likely to screw up your system... maybe tbols, will put on some solid size and little interruption with your system. I would hold off on adding test unless you are going to do something that is going to suppress your system. lots of new safer ph's, but do your reading on each one. just my opinion. usually if you're on here asking questions... youve already got the mind set to get bigger with "help".