YellowJacket, Some help please bro

[Cipher]

Hey bro, ive seen alot of posts over the past 2 years from here, MC, FB and some others about PH's. I was wondering if you could put together something that has all the Pro Hormones (1-test, 4AD, 4-AD etc etc) and break them down and compare them. I am confused by all the different ones and I know others are as well. Can you help out?

Thanks,
Ciph

[Keiser]

If i'm not mistaken, I think he already did, try doing a search. I think I remember reading it on this board bro.

[Cipher]

thanks alot LM, I havent found it yet but im still looking.....I was more or less asking for a sticky on top of this forum.

Ciph

[labrad]

Bro', I would try and help out, but time constraints. Big Cat has a solid aricle (though dated over at bodybuilding.com). Read that and I will try and help you as best I can.

Generally, a 1-test/4-AD transdermal works best. There are side effects to consider, and I don't have time to go thru them. So do your research and come back and ask specific questions. I will then try and help out as best I can. Do your homework. Peace.

[Cipher]

Well I know the basics, problem is i need to know the specifics such as "the diff between 4AD and 4-AD and all the different Pro Hormones.

Ciph

[labrad]

Originally posted by Cipher
Well I know the basics, problem is i need to know the specifics such as "the diff between 4AD and 4-AD and all the different Pro Hormones.

Ciph

There is no difference. You need to do your homework. Read Big Cat's article over at bodybuilding.com. It is dated, but has the basics. There are side effects, so you should research. Then ask me a question. Best of luck.

[labrad]

Originally posted by Cipher
Well I know the basics, problem is i need to know the specifics such as "the diff between 4AD and 4-AD and all the different Pro Hormones.

Ciph

Bro', I am new to this board. Count yourself lucky. F*cking do your homework.

[Cipher]

I did do my homework. Some of what big cat says directly contradicts what members on this board. He says that taking Pro Hormones orally is the better way over transdermal. So which is it?

Ciph

[labrad]

Originally posted by Cipher
I did do my homework. Some of what big cat says directly contradicts what members on this board. He says that taking Pro Hormones orally is the better way over transdermal. So which is it?

Ciph

Now we can talk. Take 4-AD as a transdermal. Try Avant Labs 4-ADerm or BDC's T-4.

Oh yeah, you have found the biggest hole in Big Cat's article. Kudos to you.

[Cipher]

I just bought Super One + from Avant Labs (2 8 oz bottles) and will be trying that.

Ive read on this forum that there was a difference between 4AD and 4-AD. Maybe there isnt 2 different hormones, Maybe people are just using the - loosely.

Ciph

[labrad]

Originally posted by Cipher
I just bought Super One + from Avant Labs (2 8 oz bottles) and will be trying that.

Ive read on this forum that there was a difference between 4AD and 4-AD. Maybe there isnt 2 different hormones, Maybe people are just using the - loosely.

Ciph

Exactly what it is. Oh yeah, you bought a solid product (Super One +). Enjoy the gains. How long are you going to run it? Do you have your post cycle supplements?

[The Druid]

Are you sure it's not 4-AD and 1-AD? because 4AD is 4-AD but 1-AD is diff.

[Cipher]

I bought 2 8 ounce bottles and it says use 6-12 squirts 2x per day. Ive read alot of people only take the 6 squirts 2x day. Why is that. How much should I be taking and where is the best place. Some say very vascualr places like the back of your hands and back or your knees. Others say large muschle groups like back, legs. Yes I have bought 6OXO to kickstart the boys again. When should I cycle this in?

Ciph

[lovetoeat]

Apply it to thin skinned areas, upper thighs, delts, chest, inside arms etc. Start the 6OXO the day after your cycle ends. And if you're hairy, shave it.

[Cipher]

Originally posted by lovetoeat
Apply it to thin skinned areas, upper thighs, delts, chest, inside arms etc. Start the 6OXO the day after your cycle ends. And if you're hairy, shave it.

Thanks Alot bro. As always a big help. I asked another ? in another post to you but ill re-post it here. Im using 12 squirts 2x day. Is this enough or too much.

Ciph