Oncologists Admit Income is Linked to Treatment

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A survey of 480 oncologists published in the December 2012 issue of the Journal of Clinical Oncology showed that they get paid more when they administer and sell chemotherapy and other drugs to their patients. This has been previously shown to account for up to 65% of their income in some instances. Yet only 27% of these oncologists acknowledged this was true for their practices.

The problem with this, of course, is that there would be a temptation to overtreat with drugs that are expensive and perhaps not especially beneficial.

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A survey of 480 oncologists published in the December 2012 issue of the Journal of Clinical Oncology showed that they get paid more when they administer and sell chemotherapy and other drugs to their patients. This has been previously shown to account for up to 65% of their income in some instances. Yet only 27% of these oncologists acknowledged this was true for their practices.

The problem with this, of course, is that there would be a temptation to overtreat with drugs that are expensive and perhaps not especially beneficial.

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EXACTLY!!!!! Just more proof of what everyone already knows...............TRADITIONAL TREATMENTS DO NOTHING BUT FILL POCKETS AND VERY LITTLE FOR CURING PEOPLE!!!

Like I always say,when you have big ppharma running things and the just as corrupt politicians getting paid to look the other way,we will never move any more forward to helping people.

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But fee for service is how all doctors get paid except those of us who almost use pure cognition. ( I get paid less for taking days to figure out a person has hemochromatosis and amyloidosis causing his problems than putting a chest tube for collapsed lung). The only way to uncouple it? Hint: pay a doctors salary without any financial incentives to do more.... oh, yeah that's called socialized medicine.......

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This is why I keep telling people, medicine and health insurance cannot follow free market rules for the most part. ( Unless you are a cosmetic plastic surgeon, etc.) You will see abuse.

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This is why I keep telling people, medicine and health insurance cannot follow free market rules for the most part. ( Unless you are a cosmetic plastic surgeon, etc.) You will see abuse.

You're absolutely right.The system is set up to be abused.I know doctors get very little money and insurance companies get the majority of it from patients visits so I can understand this haopening and thats all falls on the poers that be pulling the strings.I know it sucks to spend tons of time and money on becoming a doctor onlt to struggle in their practices and it shouldnt be this way.

But with that said,referring patients to chemo and radiation therapy for money is sickening.What needs to be done is everyone including doctors ,need to start speaking up against these idiots that push for these terrible treatments and start DEMANDING that healthier treatments be done that doctors could perform in their offices and get paid directly for.That would eliminate the money problem that doctors experience and the health problems that the traditional treatments cause so we may actually start to see cancer a thing of the past.

I'll say it till the day I die........after all the years and billions of $$ in research that has gone into cancer research THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL THERE IS NOT A CURE FOR IT!!!!

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Now remember, we have come a long way. Lance Armstrong had metastatic cancer to his lungs and brain, how powered chemo helped him at that stage.

80% of childhood leukemia is now curable. It was almost 100% death rate before.

There are cancers that we don't have to tackle to the ground with chemo, I watch all my elderly with CLL with just watchful waiting and most never need chemo.

Myelodysplastic syndrome in your 50s was a death sentence, ( your bone marrow just shuts down producing any red blood cells, platelets and white cells) but thanks to bone marrow transplantation, we can cure it.

The answer is cancer genomics. We are learning that we can now genetically type certain breast cancers and know if chemo is even going to help at all!

My father in law had signet cell colon cancer with 22 lymph node involvement, not the more curable adenocarcinoma, his oncologist pretty much told him nothing was going to help his very aggressive colon cancer including high powered chemo ( the guy was honest), but in his case, my father in law opted for everything. The oncologist did not want to deny him even the 1% chance and gave him the chemo, telling him it was all experimental. In that case, the patient made the demand. I know. His oncologist even told him to look for alternative therapy since traditional did not help metastatic signet cell.

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Now remember, we have come a long way. Lance Armstrong had metastatic cancer to his lungs and brain, how powered chemo helped him at that stage.

80% of childhood leukemia is now curable. It was almost 100% death rate before.

There are cancers that we don't have to tackle to the ground with chemo, I watch all my elderly with CLL with just watchful waiting and most never need chemo.

Myelodysplastic syndrome in your 50s was a death sentence, ( your bone marrow just shuts down producing any red blood cells, platelets and white cells) but thanks to bone marrow transplantation, we can cure it.

The answer is cancer genomics. We are learning that we can now genetically type certain breast cancers and know if chemo is even going to help at all!

My father in law had signet cell colon cancer with 22 lymph node involvement, not the more curable adenocarcinoma, his oncologist pretty much told him nothing was going to help his very aggressive colon cancer including high powered chemo ( the guy was honest), but in his case, my father in law opted for everything. The oncologist did not want to deny him even the 1% chance and gave him the chemo, telling him it was all experimental. In that case, the patient made the demand. I know. His oncologist even told him to look for alternative therapy since traditional did not help metastatic signet cell.

Not saying that arent great strides in medical technology bandaidwoman.Of vourse there has been.The problem we are talking about is when patients arent even given any options and just sent for chemo which has a very poor track record of curing patients for the purpose of getting fatter wallets.

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Oh , I definately agree, honestly, I struggle with this every day. The hardest job as an Internist is many times I have to disagree with specialists. Whether it is infectious disease, cardiology etc. or oncology. A famous breast clinic fired a patient of mine for refusing a breast biopsy of a suspicious mass ( she had 12 biopsies in her lifetime and only once was DCIS which she just took care of with lumpectomy). Knowing the mathematics of tumor growth , I told her if we just repeat the mammo and the tumor does not double in size in 3 months, it can't be breast cancer. In 3 months, completely the same. I spared her her 13th biopsy but her specialist called me bad names.. .....

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Oh , I definately agree, honestly, I struggle with this every day. The hardest job as an Internist is many times I have to disagree with specialists. Whether it is infectious disease, cardiology etc. or oncology. A famous breast clinic fired a patient of mine for refusing a breast biopsy of a suspicious mass ( she had 12 biopsies in her lifetime and only once was DCIS which she just took care of with lumpectomy). Knowing the mathematics of tumor growth , I told her if we just repeat the mammo and the tumor does not double in size in 3 months, it can't be breast cancer. In 3 months, completely the same. I spared her her 13th biopsy but her specialist called me bad names.. .....

Its awesome to hear that you are the kind of doctor who will stand up for things she knows in her heart to be wrong.If only more would be that way we would could be on the right track to curing people.

Thank you.