EAC stack without aspirin?

[THE HULK]

I've been doing a EAC stack for about a month cycling on and off. Im worried about the long term effects of taking aspirin? I've heard it's not good on your stomach, and also that it doesn't really have an effect on the combining with ephedrine and caffiene. What do you guys think.. Is it worth taking?

[MrOntario]

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Wonder if there is something that can protect the stomach as there is for the liver 52 and milk thistle? How many aspirin are you taking a day?

[THE HULK]

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I was doing 3 a day cause I take the stack 3x a day.

[THE HULK]

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This cycle I've stopped taking the aspirin untill I find out the side effects.

[Buffgrandpa]

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Ok, so I stole this from the Wikipedia description, but it's a good review. I personally know of no one that has had stomach problems beyond discomfort or upset stomach (usually when taking on an empty stomach). The bottom line is... here is the reason the aspirin is in there in the first place and what you can expect if you don't use it. Will it work?.. yes, will it work as well? No. If it is causing you problems then it would be wise not to take it.

Wiki -

The effects of the ECA stack in weight loss are primarily due to the ephedrine component. Ephedrine acts both as a beta agonist and stimulates the release of norepinephrine. Increased circulating norepinephrine in the body then acts on white adipose tissue by increasing cAMP levels. This causes a thermogenic effect, raising body temperature and increasing the user's metabolism in conjunction with the rest of the stack.

However, the body's negative feedback system then activates to normalize the metabolism. This is done via the production of phosphodiesterase inside the cells, and prostaglandins outside the cell, which both lower cAMP levels within the cell.

Caffeine inhibits the production of phosphodiesterase inside the cell and therefore slows cAMP breakdown. It also binds with and competitively inhibits adenosine receptors in the brain, triggering the release of epinephrine and increasing cAMP levels further.

Aspirin inhibits prostaglandin production outside of the cells, which, in conjunction with caffeine, greatly prolongs the thermogenic effects and increased metabolism by sustaining elevated cAMP levels.

Ephedrine also has an anorectic, or appetite-suppressing, effect. However, these effects only last for about two weeks if the stack is not cycled, as the body becomes tolerant to ephedrine to some degree. It is estimated that 60%–75% of the weight loss from using the ECA stack comes from the anorectic effect, and the remainder from thermogenesis.

The final component in weight loss of the ECA stack is that of a simple stimulant; the higher epinephrine and norepinephrine levels result in increased aerobic exercise performance and less fatigue.

[THE HULK]

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I havent had ne discomfort from it. I'm just worried about a prolonged effect but I dont plan on being on it after this cycle. Do you really think 3 aspirin a day are necessary? Shouldn't two be enough to stay in your system all day?

[Buffgrandpa]

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I would think that if you spaced it evenly you should be fine. Even low dose aspirin for heart disease is only taken once a day. I'm sure that the aspirin doesn't have any kind of a "surge" effect like the caffeine and Ephedrine does, so my answer would be taken twice a day would be fine. But then, I have been wrong before.. lol

[MrOntario]

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Hummm has to be something on the net in regards to long term affects of aspirin.
Either way 81mg..the little blue aspirins is recommended anyways for health. They suggest to take 2 a day because they found that half the population was immune to just taking one. So to be on the safe take 2 of them a day.

As for the other. Cant see why you can't take a break from and use maybe use a different kind of fat burner/herbal for a month.....to change it up?

[firstenrgy]

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Very good question! I have seen the results of studies with EC vs ECA and most studies showed that the ECA stack was more effective. I still don't understand why or has anyone been able to effectivly explain even in theory why it would work better. You are yousing the EC because it stimulates beta receptors and is Thermogenic so why would you include a compound the reduces body temperature? Never quite understood it but you will see in every major diet drug white willow bark (used to make asprin).

[trip]

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fwiw, imho, aspirin is least of worries

eca is just legal speed, long term use can cause depression, and very severe at times

any eca bottle says max 12 weeks

just be carefull

i'm like first energy, i don't know the specifics yet i know i often will do just plain old coffee and an asprin on a cutting cycle, it just seems the aspirin prolongs the stimulus, by 4-5 hours versus a cup of joe alone