Ive done clen and ive done eca stack...Anythin else out there worth mentioning..Just curious...Dont say diet and cario (i know that lol) im talkin bout a lil boost
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Re: What supps best for cutting?
CLEN ECA STACK WILL HELP AND OH YEAH HEALTHY EATING AND CARDIO TO. ARE YOU LOOKING FOR OTHER AAS SUPPS FOR CUTTINGDisclaimer: Steroid use is illegal in a vast number of countries around the world. This is not without reason. Steroids should only be used when prescribed by your doctor and under close supervision. Steroid use is not to be taken lightly and we do not in any way endorse or approve of illegal drug use. The information is provided on the same basis as all the other information on this site, as informational/entertainment value.
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Re: What supps best for cutting?
well ive got clen on hand and i can get ephedrine HCL, caffiene and asprin for an ECA...From past I got better results with ECA but im jus wonderin if theres been anythin new that proves for better resultsIm gonna get so big I cant dress myself
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wow
clen
eca or ecy
t3
anavar
winnie
DNP did this not anymore for me.. 2 cycles...
tren (haven't run)
melatonin 2 will mess up your appetite
meridia will also cause restricted food consumption
cardio
do high rep low weight in your training.. example 20 reps 4 sets per bpRon Paul president 2008
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If you can get your hands on some old skool Xenedrine RFA-1 or Stacker 3 with Ephedra, do yourself a favor and by it!
This ephedrine HCL they've got going isn't as good.....
There's a lot of other stuff out there (ie-meridia, phentermine, Venom, etc.), but the risk versus the benefits aren't worth IMO.....
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DNP is effective but risky. DNP effectively turns glycogen into heat and can cause all sorts of problems. The risk of glycogen depletion is high which can leave you exhausted and result in muscle catabolism I feel.
IMO the most widely overlooked thing people can do to cut is walking, the proportions of glycogen and fat burnt during walking lean very much toward fat burning as and is less catabolic than activities that raise the heart rate into the aerobic training zone.
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the last time i did an effective cut i did clen and epehdrine/caffiene...2 weeks clen then 2 weeks off..in the off weeks of clen i took ephedrine HCL and caffiene. It worked very well. However I dont feel like dealing with the freakin cramps from clen. Anyone ever done an ecy stack? MICK-G how effective is albuterol?Im gonna get so big I cant dress myself
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Honestly, If u want a supp that gives u energy & increases ur body temp w/o the shakes & anxiety assoc w/ ECA. Then look into ALRI Venom Hyperdrive 3.0. I have been using it for about 3 wks now, let me tell u the energy I feel is amazing. I still haven't adapted to it. It seems to have, should I dare say it, a DNP factor to it. I started my diet @ 294 lbs this morning I weighed in @ 275 lbs. Not bad!
I read that using this stuff in conjunction with a mass cycle helps keep u leanr (w/o the bloat).
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Originally posted by mrthnhmn View PostHonestly, If u want a supp that gives u energy & increases ur body temp w/o the shakes & anxiety assoc w/ ECA. Then look into ALRI Venom Hyperdrive 3.0. I have been using it for about 3 wks now, let me tell u the energy I feel is amazing. I still haven't adapted to it. It seems to have, should I dare say it, a DNP factor to it. I started my diet @ 294 lbs this morning I weighed in @ 275 lbs. Not bad!
I read that using this stuff in conjunction with a mass cycle helps keep u leanr (w/o the bloat).
Have you noticed any depression or negative mood changes with it? I talked to a supplement store owner the other day he said a couple that tried Stimulant-X, which looks to have similiar ingredients, took it and felt depressed...
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Originally posted by youngN View Postthe last time i did an effective cut i did clen and epehdrine/caffiene...2 weeks clen then 2 weeks off..in the off weeks of clen i took ephedrine HCL and caffiene. It worked very well. However I dont feel like dealing with the freakin cramps from clen. Anyone ever done an ecy stack? MICK-G how effective is albuterol?
Albuterol, l Like clenbuterol, albuterol binds to the so called beta 2 adrenergic receptors found on cells throughout the body. The beta 2 receptors on fat cells activate an enzyme called hormone sensitive lipase. This breaks up stored fat into free fatty acids that are able to then leave the fat cell and serve as a fuel source in other tissues. In athletes the primary target of these fatty acids is working muscle. This is the familiar process we know as lipolysis. Albuterol, like clen, is a potent lipolytic agent. But simply freeing up fat is not enough. Unless the body can burn the extra FFA they will simply be reincorporated into fat. Albuterol has the ability to elevate a person's metabolic rate so these FFA can be utilized for fuel.
Numerous animal studies have shown that clenbuterol increases both muscle size and strength; data supporting these effects in humans are sparse. Albuterol on the the other hand has been shown to significantly increase both strength and endurance in humans (1,2). As an added benfit, albuterol lowers LDL and total cholesterol, while at the same time elevating HDL, the "good cholesterol":
"Significant alterations (P < or = .02) were observed in total cholesterol ([TC] -9.1% +/- 2.5%), low-density lipoprotein cholesterol ([LDL-C] - 15.0% +/- 2.9%), and high-density lipoprotein cholesterol ([HDL-C] +10.4% +/- 3.2%) concentrations, as well as the TC/HDL-C (-17.4% +/- 2.6%) and LDL-C/HDL-C (-22.9% +/- 2.4%) ratios." (3)
4 mg of albuterol taken approximately 1 to 2 hours before a workout allows for peak plasma levels to be reached during the training session. Additionally the much shorter half life of albuterol compared to clenbuterol allows one to benefit from its ergogenic effects during a training session but not suffer the sleeplessness that many clenbuterol users experience. Moreover, the short half life leads to much less beta 2 receptor downregulation than with clenbuterol, allowing one to use the drug daily for longer periods of time. On the other hand, if one is primarily interested in fat loss rather than performance enhancement, one could take 3 or 4 multiple doses of albuterol throughout the day, always of course cutting back if clenbuterol-like side effects are felt.
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