Creatine Cycling.....

[DJDIGGLER]

When does everyone take their creatine when cycling; before or after their workout?

[mick-G]

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I take mine before and after.

[geesler]

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I dont take creatine, I dont like the puffy/water weight of it. I feel harder and more vascular with just my regular creatine production.

[Testify]

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Before and after - or just after - are both good ways to take it.

[HungarianBeast]

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Half before, half after.

[DJDIGGLER]

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I read that it's not good for your liver to take more than 7g of creatine per day. Has anyone else ever heard that?

I know the benefits of taking it before is to increase your intensity and strength. But what is the benefit of taking it after?

[geesler]

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Nope- as far as I know thats a myth and there are no bad liver effects for creatine

[geesler]

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Br J Sports Med 2000; 34:284-288
© 2000 the British Journal of Sports Medicine

Dietary creatine supplementation does not affect some haematological indices, or indices of muscle damage and hepatic and renal function

Tristan M Robinson, Dean A Sewell, Anna Casey, Gery Steenge and Paul L Greenhaff
School of Biomedical Sciences, University of Nottingham Medical School, Queen's Medical Centre, Nottingham NG7 2UH, United Kingdom


Correspondence to: Dr P Greenhaff email: paul.greenhaff@nottingham.ac.uk

Background—The use of creatine (Cr) as a nutritional supplement to aid athletic performance has gained widespread popularity among athletes. However, concerns have recently been expressed over potentially harmful effects of short and long term Cr supplementation on health.

Methods—Forty eight young healthy subjects were randomly allocated to three experimental protocols aimed at elucidating any potential health risks associated with five days (20 g/day) to nine weeks (3 g/day) of Cr supplementation. Venous blood samples were collected before and after periods of Cr supplementation and were analysed for some haematological indices, and for indices of hepatic, muscular, and renal dysfunction.

Findings—All measured indices were well within their respective normal range at all times. Serum creatinine concentration tended to be increased the day after Cr supplementation. However, values had returned to baseline six weeks after the cessation of supplementation. These increases were probably attributable to increased creatinine production rather than renal dysfunction. No indication of impairment to the haematological indices measured, hepatic function, or muscle damage was apparent after Cr supplementation.

Interpretation—These data provide evidence that there are no obvious adverse effects of acute or more chronic Cr supplementation on the haematological indices measured, nor on hepatic, muscle, and renal function. Therefore there is no apparent health risk associated with Cr supplementation to healthy people when it is ingested in quantities that have been scientifically proven to increase muscle Cr stores.



more- posted by BigKat somewhere....
Unless you have a pre-existing medical condition, creatine use should not damage your kidneys or liver. Most of the hype has been the result of anecdotal reports. In one study which tracked healthy athletes over a five-year period, football players who used creatine at levels up to 15.75g of creatine per day showed no effect on markers of renal or kidney stress. In another study conducted by Dr. Kerry Kuehl at the Oregon Health Sciences University in Portland and presented at the 2000 annual meeting of the American College of Sports Medicine, the kidney function of 36 healthy male and female athletes who consumed 10g of creatine per day was examined. After twelve weeks, Dr. Kuehl found that creatine did not adversely affect kidney function.

[geesler]

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It will however make you smooth and bloated and shut down your own creatine production (temporarily) and give you water based strength gains :/ Along with water come nutrients though, but also the look of water retention which I personally don't like.

[Skarhead]

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ive never read it shutting down your creatine production... it gives you more muscle endurance however. and the new CEE doesnt doa ny of what you mentioned above

[geesler]

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ive never read it shutting down your creatine production... it gives you more muscle endurance however. and the new CEE doesnt doa ny of what you mentioned above

Yeah it does.. I'll find a more scientific post with sources but here is from the Washington Daily Post for now..

"How it works:

Creatine increases the amount of energy in each muscle cell. It converts adenosine diphosphate (ADP) to adenosine triphosphate (ATP). ATP is the fuel of muscle cells, responsible for helping power muscle contractions. Supplementing with creatine translates to greater muscle energy, strength and size.

The human body is superb self-regulator, and recognizes when it's receiving more creatine than normal. When a person ingests more than the average amount of creatine - either by taking supplements or eating large amounts of creatine-rich food - the body's natural mechanisms for producing creatine shut down. When creatine supplementation stops, the body rebounds and begins producing it again."

[Skarhead]

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Ah i see... No big deal IMO. at least it comes back

[geesler]

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Yeah it does definately come back to regular levels of production. It gets shutdown via a negative feedback mechanism, triggered by elevated levels of creatine in the body.

[mick-G]

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10mg each

[mick-G]

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I meant 10,000mg each, lol