Do theses PH work?

[tjrex]

I'm very familiar with the huge gains experienced with the real gear. Due to my employment I can not risk trying the real stuff out. (drug screening)

What kinds of gains are typical on a 12 week bulking stack? I could put on a good 30 pounds on the real gear. (6' 3", 240 lbs, 40 yrs old male)

What do you experts suggest for a 12 week bulking ,followed by a 12 week cutting stack.

Thanks in advance for your input

[badasz32]

Re: Do theses PH work?

the drug testing at work the dont screen for aas, the only look for street drugs, steroid testing is really expensive, the only test that can check for them is like $250 a pop, and its used randomly for ncaa, and other competitive sports.

[NPursuit]

Re: Do theses PH work?

The best legal stack IMO would be.

wk 1-10 1-test cyp
wk 1-10 4-AD prop/4oht deca or 4-AD cyp
wk 1-2 M1T

You could also toss some m1,4 ADD for bulking and m5aa or m40hn for cutting.

[tjrex]

Re: Do theses PH work?

Thanks, But I have a bunch of jerks that work for me, that will surely turn me in for drug testing. I work for a company that would spare no expense to test it's employees. You are right about not testing for aas but if given a "tip" they would have no choice but to follow up. (Federal requirments)

I know how good the real stuff is and if it wasn't for work I would not waste any money on anything but my favorites.
week 1-12 1200 mg of test week
week 1-6 50 mg dbol
week 1-8 400 mg deca
week 6-12 75 mg tren eod.

What kind of results will the prohormones give with respect to this kind of stack?

strenght? size?

10%
20%
50%
80%

I have no feel for the "new" technology here.

[tjrex]

Re: Do theses PH work?

m1,4 ADD -- (dbol)
m5aa---- (Masteron)


M40hn-- (not sure what this is)
M1T---(is this test? if so why only for 2 weeks?)

I had sucsess in finding the above [roducts at PN.

Now where do I find the items below? Do they have different names then what I'm looking for?
1-test cyp
4-AD prop/4oht deca or 4-AD cyp


Thanks guys for all your help!

[NPursuit]

Re: Do theses PH work?

M40HN is like a weak anavar
M1T will put strength and size on faster than anything illegal. The reason for only 2 weeks is that it's very liver toxic and suppressive, so I believe it's best to just use it as a kickstart.

You can get all of those products at customnutritionwarehouse or designersupplements. The 4-ad prop/4oht deca can be found at designer @ is nicknamed sledge test.

Noone can tell you what your gains are going to be, but 10-25 pounds is the norm.

[tjrex]

Re: Do theses PH work?

Thanks!!! Thats what I was looking for.

Now can you set me up with dosages for a 12 week bulk followed by 12 weeks of cutting?

I have plenty of edephra based stacker and the usuals creatine, glutamine..

BTW
"Sledge" test brings up some pretty good memories of an old friend!

[NPursuit]

Re: Do theses PH work?

Thanks!!! Thats what I was looking for.

Now can you set me up with dosages for a 12 week bulk followed by 12 weeks of cutting?

I have plenty of edephra based stacker and the usuals creatine, glutamine..

BTW
"Sledge" test brings up some pretty good memories of an old friend!

I would go with a 10 week not a 12 week bulker, and I sure as hell won't recommend going into a cut after that. You could kiss your gains goodbye following that protocol. Look into something like this.

wk 1-2 M1T 10mg
wk 1-10 1-test cyp 800-1000mg/wk
wk 1-10 Sledge Test 1800-200mg/wk

[tjrex]

Re: Do theses PH work?

Why does the 1 test cyp say its in a pain free solution. This is oral correct?

[NPursuit]

Re: Do theses PH work?

Why does the 1 test cyp say its in a pain free solution. This is oral correct?

no it's a sterile and pinnable. Are you looking for oral or transdermal only?

[tjrex]

Re: Do theses PH work?

No,
I kind of like sticking myself!

I cant find the sledge test at designer nor 4-ad prop/4oht deca anywhere.

Thanks for all your help!

[NPursuit]

Re: Do theses PH work?

No,
I kind of like sticking myself!

I cant find the sledge test at designer nor 4-ad prop/4oht deca anywhere.

Thanks for all your help!

He is suppose to be releasing more soon, but I'm not sure the exact ETA on it. You could just run 4-ad cyp. I have a bottle of Sledge Test I would let go if you are interested. I wasn't going to sell it, but my next cycle plans have changed.

[tjrex]

Re: Do theses PH work?

Ok I think I have a plan




wk 1-2 M1T 10mg
wk 1-10 1-test cyp 800-1000mg/wk
wk 1-10 4-AD cyp (dose???/ wk)
wk 1-10 m1,4 ADD 30mg/day

What do you think?

[NPursuit]

Re: Do theses PH work?

4-AD cyp I would go with 1800-2000mg/wk
I also wouldn't run the m1,4ADD for more than 4 weeks. I personally don't think you'll need it in the stack. The 4-AD cyp should do just fine.

[tjrex]

Re: Do theses PH work?

Good deal! I'll do just that.

Were you serious about the m1t being the best legal or illegal drug available?