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    alright I'm looking to make up a cycle to help lean out and shed the extra fat and basically have it all centered around fina.
    to work with I have clen, eca, t3, M1T, and some Masterdrol V2.
    I was thinking of going the six weeks with fina, transdermal of total four grams, possibly add M1T first and last two weeks to keep test up, have clen in the middle and possibly run the T3 for all six weeks. I'm thinking of keeping the M1T at about 10mgs ed, and running the T3 only up to about 5omcgs ed. Not bothering with the eca or masterdrol V2. looking for some advice on what this might do, alternatives and interest in a journal. For those out there with advice I want to stick to things that can be bought legally are preferential, and since these are all things i have already i would like to keep the variations on them. also with pct i am not sure whether to run the liver supps after each two weeks of M1T or after the whole thing? also I heard somewhere that ala will be good after the fina any body concur?
    and to get some specs out of the way I'm about 188 lbs, 5'9", around 13-14% BF, and looking to cut down the BF add some nice strength and shape up a little, not expecting much gains in lean body mass but would not mind it. So any advice would be great.
    ps. I also posted this in the AAS section since its based around fina, but I mainly want to use legal items so I have it in both. thanks

  • #2
    Gear is for growing muscle. Diet is for losing fat.

    I'm not flaming you at all, bro, but forget all that stuff, for now. Get on a low cal keto diet, Atkins, Weight Watchers, etc., lift heavy, do cardio 30-45 ED or EOD, and you will lose fat.

    Control of the diet is essential to bodybuilding, and important (if not essential) to powerlifters. If you don't have control of your diet and your bodyfat, you do not have the discipline needed to use steroids, monitor what you eat, and ensure that you overeat for 8-12 weeks or longer in order to grow. If your bodyfat is over 15% you will gain more fat than muscle on a cycle, but if it is very low, you will gain more muscle than fat.
    Steroids work much, much better on people who have been consistenly (as in, non-stop) weight training and bodybuilding for at least three years.
    More muscle = more receptors for anabolics = more growth.
    More experience with weight training = heavier lifts = the know how to keep upping the weights.
    Heavier weights = more strength = bigger muscles.
    Doing a cutting cycle as a first cycle sounds like a "crutch" for someone who has not dedicated the time, blood, sweat and tears that is essential to get the most out of anabolics. Not a criticism, I completely understand the desire for a shortcut. If taking steroids would help an overweight person lose weight... then why not? The problem is that steroids are hormones and when you cycle you really whack out your natrual hormone levels, and it takes time to recover.
    If you are unprepared you will very likely use the steroids and ancillaries to help with fat loss (they do help a little), diet, lose fat (95% because of the diet) end your cycle, manage your PCT poorly, lose your muscle gains, gain more fat than you had before, get depressed, stop working out, start overeating and be much worse off than you were before.

    Steroids are not a shortcut to fat loss or muscle gain. The primary use of steroids is to help a natural weight lifter go beyond what is possible without them. They are not very useful in the long term, for out-of-shape people to use in order to get back into shape, or for fat people to lose fat.

    If you are just dead set on doing them anyway, try and see for yourself what happens. It's not likely that you will die or experience serious side effects, it is just highly unlikely you will maintain your fat loss or your strength gains, or continue in the game, or get over the post cycle depression, or in the very least.... it is just unlikely that the cost will in any way come close to the benefits.

    If you are in the over 40 crowd, steroids can be useful for fat loss if you have low testosterone levels. In that case, just get on HRT and get leveled out.

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      • #4
        thanks again I think I'll just hold on to the stuff for a while, If I don't remove the pellets from the carts how long should it last, I'm willing to wait but wouldn't want to waste money

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        • #5
          just found out the package has an expiration date so I'll be fine thanks everyone

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