yeah, m1t again, quick question

[Xcape]

I'm about two finish a two week m1t cycle this saturday, decent gains I might add. but here's my question...


is gyno really that common with m1t, is it actually required that I take 6-oxo , or can I take "M" from Biotest to counter the estrogen when I go off m1t... I have access to both, but the M is good deal cheaper.

this is a bit of info i grabbed off a site that carries M
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M Anti-Estrogen/Testosterone-Support Formula is the first supplement designed to decrease estrogen and increase Testosterone, thus producing the ideal hormonal environment in the male body. The net effect is a perfect hormonal milieu for losing body fat, gaining muscle mass, and optimizing the male endocrine system.

M contains four super-powerful ingredients that synergistically work overtime to create the ultimate male body:

Trihydroxystilbene blocks estrogen at the actual receptor site in male breast tissue and other estrogen-sensitive tissues.

Tocotrienols work synergistically with estrogen blockers to dramatically increase the overall effect at the receptor, as well as through non-receptor mechanisms.

Calcium D-glucarate clears excess estrogen from the body by inhibiting the enzyme that's responsible for the activation of bound estrogen.

Vitex agnus-castus increases the natural production of Testosterone and lowers prolactin levels, the hormone that's responsible for inducing lactation (even in males).
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[tnert55]

That M stuff sounds better, I used 6-OXO, Most people will tell you to use nolva or clomid. Considering you only did 2 weeks, you may be able to get away w/ that "M". If you end up going that route, let me know how it works, cause I know what you mean when you say its a great deal cheaper.

[Xcape]

if i may ask, how were your results with m1t? I gained about 15 pounds, and I swear most of it went right to my shoulders and arms... I went against a lot of advice here that said don't take m1t until you have more experience, but I did it anyways... wasn't so bad.. first few days were hell, but I'm fine now... I didn't bother stacking it with ad-4... getting the m1t in canada was hard enough....

i went to see my doctor to get my knee looked at (recent work injury) , and he looked at me when I walked in and said "holy shit, what are you taking that made you so big".. i just smiled and said "wheaties"

[NPursuit]

M1T is extremely suppressive. Unless you want to take the chance of post cycle gyno occuring I suggest you pick up Nolvadex. People have got gyno 6 weeks after their cycle.

[Lich]

Man its better safe than sorry, go Nolvadex, and its cheap as well, anywhere from 20-50 dollars for a full postcycles worth. U only did 2 weeks, it depends on the doses and how u reacted to it would help me get a better idea as to what PCT u would need.

Anyway Im only on my 6th day and im up 12 pnds, at 10 mg a day. Im rlly lucky with no sides at all, only lower appetite, besides that im free and clear! Not stacking with 4-ad either.

Anyway gl....

[89coupe]

xcape, if it was me I'd go with the nolva, M1t is very suppresive
2 weeks could shut you down. guys have used 6oxo only and got away with it but its not worth it. Also run some liver sup's m1t is real toxic. good luck

[mtnmedic]

Thats why we say experience first.., gotta do your pct. This will be my seventh cycle with m1t, obviously it works well for me so far. I allways get really good gains and keep'em well. work it hard, keep hydrated, eat lots and rest well.... As with most anything else in life keep it simple and stick with it. I'm 37 5'4" and starting jus before winter at 148 I believe to 163 dry as of this morning. A bottle of nolva some 4ad and m1t is a really cheap and effective lil cycle.......

[Lich]

Wow ur 7th m1t cycle? I sure hope ur using proper pct time and some liver support? Congrats on the gains for sure.

[Whitey]

Is it really necessary to run liver support with M1T? Anybody out there had their values checked pre- and post-?

[Xcape]

I'm just taking "m" from biotest since i only did a 2 week cycle, i'm feeling "down" right now since my cycle ended on saturday... I felt a prolonged sense of well being... I'm surprised we don't hear about cases of people getting addicted to it, as I was tempted earlier to start taking it right away so i feel "right".. I didn't though, but anyways.....

[mtnmedic]

Thanks lich, I'm an hiv patient and have blood work done every two months.., my meds are pretty bad for the system this mainly why. my lipids dropped like crazy and my cell is around 960 somthin. No big secret keep hydrated, eat alot of lean protein take a good antiox/multiple, fish/flax oil and a garlic/parsley. I never did pct and had no noticable negitive effects but this is me....

[Lich]

Ahh yes this I can understand. Well GL in that, and just curious, what brans of m1t have u tried?

Im at 15mg ed for my 2nd week with almost no sides, just lowered appetite. Up 13 1/2 pnds. Strength is good...lean mass. Im happy.

[joey52300]

i dont even think nolv is a must for pct m1t never gave me any problems. Alot of the gyno scare with m1t was for other supp companys to capatalize ont he product

[NPursuit]

Originally posted by joey52300
i dont even think nolv is a must for pct m1t never gave me any problems. Alot of the gyno scare with m1t was for other supp companys to capatalize ont he product

You (EDITED) have no clue what you are talking about. If I was a mod on this site you would be gone. Hopefully a mod sees this.

[FUZO]

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