post workout cocktail

[jjoe21670]

pure whey protein-glutamine-creatine-and most important R lipoic acid--NOT alpha lipoic acid -latest research states that it doesent work.for those who did'nt know yet.immediately after workout and of course water added.

[Audiowaves252]

Would you state the research that prooves alpha lipoic acid is ineffective? Its also used for liver protection buddy. From what i've read r-ala is just a little more potent. Theres also studies that proove glutamine is a waste because more than enough of it is supplied in your whey protein.

[jjoe21670]

loosin your undies pal-Its a proven post workout drink that I decided to post.I first got the info from a dr. mike colgan-a highly respected ,straight shooter -specializing in sports meds, and bio chem. I'm not lookin to make any enemies here.

[NPursuit]

ALA contains the R isomer that is in R-ALA, so your information is flawed.

[Slightly Enhanced]

no enemies made joe, but when you contradict what we believe we know it would be nice if you could post the study as back up.

If you search this board for ala written by basskiller you will find so detailed studies. I know that r-ala is more potent, but I have a hard time buying that ala is useless

But other than that you have a potent cocktail; however I personally think it is missing dextrose

[HungarianBeast]

Originally posted by Slightly Enhanced
I personally think it is missing dextrose

DEFINATELY, dextrose.

[Slightly Enhanced]

what a shame, i think basskiller deleted all of his posts, or someone did

[jjoe21670]

all is good guys-thanks for the positive feedback-I'll be sure to back up what I say next time with some solid research-I guess thats why we do this -constructive criticism-you gotta love it

[NPursuit]

Originally posted by jjoe21670
all is good guys-thanks for the positive feedback-I'll be sure to back up what I say next time with some solid research-I guess thats why we do this -constructive criticism-you gotta love it

I guess people thought it was strange you post something that is common knowledge in the bb world. A post workout shake is bb 101. You also didn't mention any carb source for a post workout shake. Also if you could explain why ALA is useless I would love to hear it. I'm all for discussing something. Just don't go talking out of your ass.

[jjoe21670]

definitely missed the carb source. What do you think would be the best additive for that mix. (carb source that is)

[NPursuit]

Originally posted by jjoe21670
definitely missed the carb source. What do you think would be the best additive for that mix. (carb source that is)

Dextrose if you want a high GI carb
Oats if you want a low GI carb

[Slightly Enhanced]

my vote dextrose, it is cheap usually a few bucks for a pound, gummy candy is also a good but not as cheap source of a simple sugar

[klipsch]

Not for nothing, but it's been brought to my attention lately, that the easiest way is just to go with Biotest's SURGE. Specially since they've stopped wholesaling it, and are selling direct for $21.
Could you mix up the same concoction...yeah...but here's the way it was explained to me...copy paste version:

Surge uses d-glucose a far better carb for insulin shuttling and response purposes.
Surge uses Whey protien hydrolysate, FAR FAR better then whey ion exchange whey or any other whey isolates. Problem it taste like liquid floor wax, and is expensive, even in bulk. Now if you can get around the expense there is still taste and $2 per serving of something I can keep down is important to me.
Surge is also reenforced with the proper ratio of BCAA's with a 2-1 ratio of leucine to valine and isoleucine and has additonal glutamine and phenylalanine to bring the dose to around 3 grams (I don't have my can handy so I may be off slightly on this, I am old and my memmory not that good) This is the exact ration shown in studies to ellicit the best response.
For these reasons I find my own mix would be closer to the $2 serving price, taste horrable and take me 20 min to measure and mix

I'm throwing my flak jacket on now...LOL

[Slightly Enhanced]

Originally posted by klipsch


I'm throwing my flak jacket on now...LOL

:2gunsfiri

[klipsch]

Originally posted by Slightly Enhanced
:2gunsfiri