Cell Tech?

[Magneto]

Looks better than Cell-Tech.Must check it out

By the way.One question.How do i put a avatar in my profile?I tired but it seems it wont work!

[BigE22]

I get my stuff for free because I've been ab arteender in a club here for like 3-4 years and have met the right people to get the right hook ups!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[oddball]

Originally posted by BigE22
I get my stuff for free because I've been ab arteender in a club here for like 3-4 years and have met the right people to get the right hook ups!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i really dont like you j/k bro.must be nice

[DeezGunz]

Cell tech is garbage. Its got more sugar in one serving then 2 chocolate bars. Eat healthy and drink lots of protein shakes. What I hate more then the actual cell tech product, is the dicks in the gym who joke around about Cell tech. These guys are obvious juice heads and they go around squeezing eachothers arms going, " man you must be taking that cell tech, must be the cell tech, hehehehehe." Cell tech is a big joke and so are those clowns in my gym. Take Cell tech is you wanna go through your adolescance again because when I tried it I broke out like a 15 year old boy.

[Magneto]

i read some articles about musclelab and their products,like Nitro Tech cell Tech and other i cant remember
And by what i read,it looks like they're pretty good.
Are they that good?

[NPursuit]

Originally posted by Magneto
i read some articles about musclelab and their products,like Nitro Tech cell Tech and other i cant remember
And by what i read,it looks like they're pretty good.
Are they that good?

You mean Muscletech? Nitro Tech and Cell Tech aren't that bad of products but people hate them including me for their outrageous claims, prices, and 30 page ads. The only MT product I have ever used was Hydroxycut and it worked great for me. I would not buy another MT product though.

[AnotherUser]

Dude, the article you read was a muscletech advertisement. That's one of the reasons why people hate them so much is deceptive advertising. They make their supplement adds look like articles. It's really disgusting.

[Magneto]

It looks Hydrox is good,but i think its a very expensive.worked really good for you?

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Originally posted by Magneto
It looks Hydrox is good,but i think its a very expensive.worked really good for you?

The key to supplement shopping is being able to look at the ingredients. You will find that most are the same. When you see that one product has different ingredients than the other, simply type that ingredient into a search engine and find out what it is.

Most time you will find that what may look different is really the same. There are many words for "aspirin" "caffeine" "ephedrine" etc.

One word of caution -- When an ingredient list says "proprietary blend" this may be a sign that they are trying to hose you into thinking that it is something that it is not.

Also I never buy a product that does not give me the specific amount of each ingredient. They may list the ingredient that you want, but in actuality there may only be trace amounts.

Muscle Marketing USA is a company that markets hard. At least Muscle Tech does have a legitimate product. I have seen independent lab test on MM USA – not good.

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Originally posted by AnotherUser
I found a similar product the other day that is similar to cell-tech, but looked even better. I'm not sure how it compares price wise, but it can't be much worse!! Check out:

Dymatize Powertech:

Supplement Facts:
Serving Size: 1+1/2 scoop (66.7g)
Servings per container: 30
Amount Per Serving:
Calories: 200
Calories w/ Fat: 0
Total Fat: 0g
Saturated Fat: 0g
Cholesterol: 0mg
Sodium: 0mg
Total Carbohydrates: 50g
Dietary Fiber: 0g
Sugars: 36g**
Protein: 0g
Vitamin C: 500mg
Vitamin B-6: 4.5mg
Zinc: 12.2mg
Magnesium: 183mg
Creatine Monohydrate: 10g
Lysophosphatidyl choline: 200mg
Phosporus: 200mg
Potassium: 200mg
L-Glutamine: 3g
Taurine: 2g
MCT Oil: 400mg
Phytic acid: 250mg

Ingredients:
Pharmaceutical-grade Dextrose**, Maltodextrin, Micronized Creatine Monohydrate, L-Glutamine, Taurine, Ascorbic Acid, MCT Oil, Phytic Acid, ZMA, Lysophosphatidyl Choline, Potassium Phosphate, Natural & Artificial Flavors and colors.

Directions:
As a dietary supplement, mix 1 1/2 scoops (66.7g) with 12 ounces of cold water or juice. Drink 2-3 servings daily for 4 days, then maintain with 1 serving daily.

While using a creatine supplement, be sure to consume ample amounts of water (ideally 120 oz a day) to avoid dehydration.

Ahh! The never-ending thread.

As previously stated I do not take cell-tech. But with price aside and with the main goal being creatine absorption, I don’t think this product is equal to cell-tech. I am very skeptical of the Vit C, but I will refrain commenting on that because I have no back-up data to provide.

Cell-Tech has 75g of sugar due to findings during scientific studies. But at the same time similar studies also concluded that a mixture of 50g of Protein & 50g of Carbs yielded the same results. (Protein and Carbs being in an easily digestible form)

Cell-Tech could not put the latter in a bottle so they went with the 75g of sugar mixture.(well they could but they want to keep costs low) But to even make it more potent they added ALA. Then they patented the mixture, which is why you will be hard pressed to find a creatine cocktail with ALA in it.

Recently new studies have found that the 50/50 mix may be even better than previously thought. Especially when that 50g of Protein is in the form of isolated whey. The reason being this: Creatine is a combination of amino acids that when mixed with whey there is a synergistic effect created not seen with sugar.

So if sugar is your concern or not, my $0.02 is this. Mix the creatine monohydrate with you post workout shake plus ALA and move on with your day. Once your muscles are saturated with creatine they are saturated.

[AnotherUser]

I have to disagree with your comments about the Vitamin C. I have seen numerous studies that show increased amounts of vitamin C beneficial. Regardless if it is especially helpful post workout (which I believe it is), it is still a plus to take any time of the day.

But anyway, your logic isn't really holding much ground with me. This product is a CREATINE product, NOT A PROTEIN product. You're still supposed to consume protein post workout. You can't hold something against a product for which it's not supposed to be!

Also, I have seen a few supplements with ALA + Creatine + sugar. Just because MuscleTech has a patent doesn't mean jack shit. All another company has to do is change the amount of one ingredient claimed in the patent (e.g., use 400mg ALA instead of 200 or 300mg) and the patent doesn't apply. All the patent does is look nice and fool the consumer into thinking the product is something special.

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Originally posted by AnotherUser
I have to disagree with your comments about the Vitamin C. I have seen numerous studies that show increased amounts of vitamin C beneficial. Regardless if it is especially helpful post workout (which I believe it is), it is still a plus to take any time of the day.

But anyway, your logic isn't really holding much ground with me. This product is a CREATINE product, NOT A PROTEIN product. You're still supposed to consume protein post workout. You can't hold something against a product for which it's not supposed to be!

Also, I have seen a few supplements with ALA + Creatine + sugar. Just because MuscleTech has a patent doesn't mean jack shit. All another company has to do is change the amount of one ingredient claimed in the patent (e.g., use 400mg ALA instead of 200 or 300mg) and the patent doesn't apply. All the patent does is look nice and fool the consumer into thinking the product is something special.

I didn't say anything was wrong with Vitamin C. But I do know that certain acids slow the absorption of Ceatine. That is one reason that creatine is not recommended with juice, because of the acids. But when I first took creatine I used juice and had decent results form it. The point is that I said I was skeptical of it being in the cocktail, not that it was bad for you. I really don’t know if it aids, slows, or has a negligible impact on the absorption rate.

You have confused me here. I don’t know what you are complaining about. “My logic doesn’t hold…”????? I don’t see where I ever called it a protein product. From the onset I though we were talking about creatine.

In the part of the country where I live several local manufactures had to remove ALA from there products because of Muscle Tech. I am glad to know that it is better where you live.

[AnotherUser]

SE,
To quote Par Deus from Avant Labs (this isn't exact as I don't feel like searching for it):

Q: Should I not take creatine with orange juice due to the acidity of the juice?

A: Considering the acidic environment of the stomach, you've got to wonder how much thought really went into that question

The reason creatine isn't recommended to be taken with juice is because fructose is not the preferred type of carb to use. The GI isn't really all that high, plus studies have shown that liver glycogen is replenished before muscle glycogen when fructose is consumed post workout (makes sense, since it has to be converted in the liver to glucose first).

Lets forget the "logic" comment, as I was a bit confused as to what you were trying to say as well in the original post I was replying to. It sounded to me like you were bashing the product because it contained no protein.

And last, while I'm nowhere near an expert on the subject, I did unwittingly take a class on patents this past year. Just because MuscleTech may have threatened the manufacturer and they got scared and decided to drop it, doesn't mean that their patent holds up very well in the court of law. Believe me, it's rediculous how narrowly defined patents are. It only takes a SLIGHT variation to get around them.

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Originally posted by AnotherUser
SE,
A: Considering the acidic environment of the stomach, you've got to wonder how much thought really went into that question

**as I say Duh to myself** makes sense. The stomach is very acidic.......Hmmmmm.....Let me just think aloud and maybe you can help me through this thought process.

Some foods are broken down by an alkaline and others by an acid, which would imply that there are times when your stomach is not as acidic as other times.

We also know that calcium competes with the absorption of zinc…or is it magnesium?

I have no idea where I am going with this, so I’ll just say thanks for clarifying that. I should have been able to determine that on my own, since I just read a good article on why it is okay to have your creatine at the same time as coffee.

The life of this thread must be about over…………..

Cheers everyone

[NPursuit]

Originally posted by Magneto
It looks Hydrox is good,but i think its a very expensive.worked really good for you?

The original epehdrine formula worked well. I have never nor will I ever try the ephedrine free version. Like said above Hydroxycut was really nothing more than a standard ECA with some added ingredients, however it worked better for me than Xenadrine RFA-1 the other leading ECA at the time.

To help let this thread die I promise not to reply on it anymore.