Which ph stack for me.

[thedon]

Which ph stack for my first cycle?
6week cycle
2x 4g 1-test + 10g 4-ad or
2x 10g 1-test + 4g 4-ad
or 4 week cycle
1x 4g 1-test + 10g 4-ad or
1x 10g 1-test + 4g 4-ad
then 4weeks off then
4 week cycle
1x 4g 1-test + 10g 4-ad or
1x 10g 1-test + 4g 4-ad
??
Should i do nolvadex or clomid post cycle?

[ex_banana-eater]

You should really tell us your goals, so we can decide which cycle to help you with.

Yes, you will have to use an anti-estrogen post-cycle. Whether it be 6-oxo, nolvadex, or clomid.

As for your cycle lengths, many people tend to go with 8-12 weeks with most steroid hormones, although users report 1-test gains peak at aproximately week four.

[YellowJacket]

Agreed with EBE, thus why its better to do 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off, 4 weeks on.

[thedon]

To gain as much muscle as possible
Was asking which works better to help natural test come back quicker so i don't loose much nolva or clomid?


I thought most people did 4 - 6 weeks cycles for ph..

[thedon]

Originally posted by YellowJacket
Agreed with EBE, thus why its better to do 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off, 4 weeks on.

Was it right when i read it takes 1 week for the trasdermal gel to get into the blood? so week 5 on a 4 week cycle would be important do you start recovery that week or the next?
With 4 on 4 off 4 on do you do 2 post cycle recoverys?

[YellowJacket]

You'll do a 4 week cycle, therapy during your 4 weeks off then 4 weeks back on then more therapy.

[thedon]

I only have enough for 3 weeks post cycle each time
21 x Clomid 50mg or
21 x Nolvadex 20mg
Should i do for each 4 weeks
1x 4g 1-test + 10g 4-ad or
1x 10g 1-test + 4g 4-ad
Or
1.5x 4g 1-test + 10g 4-ad or
1.5x 10g 1-test + 4g 4-ad
How long is taken off after 4on/4off/4on ??

[Cipher]

Originally posted by YellowJacket
You'll do a 4 week cycle, therapy during your 4 weeks off then 4 weeks back on then more therapy.

YJ, by therapy do you mean the Clomid or Nolvadex? What else should you be doing on your "therapy weeks" besides this. ie, increasing or decreasing calories, workout routine, sleep, any other supps??

Ciph

[thedon]

Which dose should i go for? does 4-ad build any muscle? or just combat 1-test lethargic?

What about an even dose 7g 1-test 7g 4-ad

[YellowJacket]

Originally posted by Cipher
YJ, by therapy do you mean the Clomid or Nolvadex? What else should you be doing on your "therapy weeks" besides this. ie, increasing or decreasing calories, workout routine, sleep, any other supps??

Ciph

Clomid will do, 6-oxo if you want to go the legal route. During therapy, make sure you're getting a good amount of calories and I suggest some flax oil during post cycle as well, all will help your natural test levels return and help keep your gains. If you want, creatine will help you keep strength gains and is a good idea post cycle also.

[YellowJacket]

Originally posted by thedon
Which dose should i go for? does 4-ad build any muscle? or just combat 1-test lethargic?

What about an even dose 7g 1-test 7g 4-ad

4-AD will help create gains, considerably.

[labrad]

Originally posted by thedon
Was it right when i read it takes 1 week for the trasdermal gel to get into the blood? so week 5 on a 4 week cycle would be important do you start recovery that week or the next?
With 4 on 4 off 4 on do you do 2 post cycle recoverys?

General rule: 4 on, 4 off (use anti- E such as 6-oxo, nolva, or clomid), 4 on, 8 off (again using an anti-E). Repeat as necessary.

Oh yeah, as far as being off throw in 3-5 tablespoons of flax.

[thedon]

No ones told me which dosage i should go for?
more 4ad? more 1-test? maybe first 4weeks more 1-test second 4 weeks more 4ad?
I dunno anyone?

8 off(again using an anti-E) 8 weeks of anti e?
how about post cycle tribulus, nolva, zma, flax oil..
Do i continue to train and eat a little less around what i was during the 4weeks? during both off cycles?

[YellowJacket]

oh boy...

[Cipher]

Originally posted by YellowJacket
oh boy...

LOL.....

YJ.....you can shoot all the newbs myself included......some of this is just common sense....other stuff isnt so common.

BTW....is there a place I can get the correct dosage for the Avant Labs Super One +. Says on the bottle 6G 1-Test / 9.375G 4AD. Is that per dose, per squirt???

Ciph