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    Heres a decent article I found regarding the science behind the ECA stack
    ECA Supplement Stack For Muscle Growth and Fat Loss
    by Stimulating the ß-Agonist System - The Role of Ephedrine,
    Caffeine, and Aspirin
    By Michael C. Prevost Ph.D.

    The role of the ß-agonist (beta agonist) pathway in controlling
    the body's fat stores, muscle hypertrophy (growth), the body's
    response to exercise and even muscle fiber type has been
    brought to light in the last 10 years through the efforts of
    hundreds of scientists with literally thousands of papers
    being published on the subject. Clearly, the ß-agonist pathway
    is one of the most important signalling pathways in the body.
    To understand how the ß-agonist pathway works and what role
    Caffeine, Ephedrine and Aspirin plays in the system one must
    first understand what a ß-agonist is and what they do.

    On the surfaces of many of the cells of the body (for our
    purposes the most important tissues are muscle and fat cells)
    are located b receptors. These b receptors bind b-agonists
    (adrenaline and noradrenaline). When a ß-agonist is bound
    to a b receptor, the receptor initiates a series of chemical
    reactions that results in the production of a chemical
    messenger called C-AMP. This C-AMP then activates
    enzymes that phosphorylate proteins. Why is thisimportant?
    Well, many of these proteins are enzymes and
    phosphorylation activates some enzymes and de-acitvates
    others. In fat cells enzymes are activated that induce
    lipolysis (fat breakdown). In muscle cells enzymes are
    activated that increase metabolism and cause a host of
    other important reactions which control muscle growth, fiber
    type and enzyme concentration. So, how do ephedrine,
    caffeine and aspirin fit into this pathway? Ephedrine
    enhances ß-agonist production and even acts as a
    ß-agonist itself. Caffeine inhibits the breakdown of C-AMP.
    Aspirin inhibits the negative feedback loop that would
    reduce ß-agonist production. So taken together these
    agents enhance three to four different steps in the ß-agonist
    pathway.

    Ephedrine's role as a lipolytic agent (one that breaks down
    body fat to be used as energy) has been known for some
    time. It has been shown that ephedrine when taken in
    therapeutic doses is mildly effective in the management
    of obesity. The problem was that the initial lipolytic effects
    of ephedrine were soon diminished as other steps in the
    pathway were reduced in a negative feedback cycle. In an
    effort to enhance these steps that were being
    downregulated due to negative feedback, scientists added
    caffeine and aspirin to the regime. The result was a very
    effective combination in the management of obesity
    (dosages given were 20mg ephedrine, 300mg caffeine, and
    80mg aspirin, roughly equivalent to one typical ephedrine
    tablet, a cup of coffee and one aspirin). In fact, not only
    did the results (lipolysis) not decrease over time as with
    most drugs, but they actually increased with time. The
    effects of the combination of ephedrine, caffeine and
    aspirin were categorized into desirable and undesirable
    effects. The desirable effects were lipolysis and protein
    sparing (subjects on the drug combination retained
    more muscle mass while dieting than the subjects on
    placebo). Again, these desirable effects did not diminish
    over time. The undesirable effects, increased heart rate
    and muscle tremors, lasted only a few days and never
    returned. In fact, after 1 year of supplementation subjects
    were experiencing no side effects but were still
    experiencing the desired effects of lipolysis and protein
    sparing. To date it has not been determined if the ephedrine,
    caffeine and aspirin combination can enhance muscle
    growth and fat loss in healthy, exercising adults. However,
    based on what we know about the ß-agonist system, it is
    certainly possible. It is important to note, however, that a
    small handful of subjects among the large subject pool
    had to drop out of the study due to an intolerance to the
    supplementation regime. So it appears that most
    people can use the ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin
    combination with no problems, while a small handful of
    people may be intolerant. A consultation with a
    physician is suggested before beginning this ECA
    supplement regime.

    The ß-agonist pathway may effect processes other than
    muscle sparing and fat loss. In fact in chickens ß-agonists
    were shown to be stronger growth promoting agents than
    steroids (believe it or not but poultry science folks are
    doing a lot of research trying to produce more muscular
    chickens since the muscle is the meat that we eat). In fact
    ß-agonists seem to produce muscle growth without the
    stimulus of exercise, something steroids have failed to
    do. However ß-agonists are not as effective in rats and
    the effects on humans is unknown. The ß-agonist
    clenbuterol can cause slow twitch muscle fibers to
    be converted to fast twitch fibers. It can also prevent
    muscle atrophy due to disuse. Other studies have shown
    that b-antagonists (agents that block b-receptors and
    prevent them from functioning) cause muscles to shift
    from fast twitch to slow twitch and cause muscle atrophy
    (muscle wasting or breakdown). These studies indicate
    that ß-agonists might play an important role in the
    maintenance of fast twitch muscle fibers and in maintaining
    and perhaps increasing muscle mass. It may be no
    coincidence then that large amounts of ß-agonists
    (adrenaline and noradrenaline) are produced during
    high intensity training sessions. Perhaps these
    ß-agonists are necessary in initiating the muscle growth
    stimulus.

    It is important to note that some ß-agonists can be
    dangerous (for example clenbuterol and cocaine) and
    illegal and these substances are not recommended. Also,
    as mentioned earlier, although the ß-agonist combination
    of caffeine, ephedrine and aspirin appears to be safe (and of
    course legal) a small number of people are intolerant and
    consultation with a physician is suggested. Everyone
    should visit there doctor prior to using any of these
    substances for a clean bill of health.

  • #2
    Re: ECA Stack

    Good read Kets,thank you.

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    • #3
      Re: ECA Stack

      YEAH THERES ALOT TO THIS STUFF THAT PEOPLE DONT THINK ABOUT- BUT THEN AGAIN YOU ARE A STUDENT OF KNOWLEDGE LIKE MYSELF AND KNOW THIS

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