cyp. and enanthanate

**musclebuilder** · 03-27-2003, 07:49 PM

my buddy did a wierd stack. he started week 1-5 with 400mg/week cyp, and then jumped to 750 mg/week enanthanate. the reason for the changes was the availability of the gear at the time, and his insisting need to start. anyway, now that he is on the enanthanate will it still take about 4-5 weeks to kick in? he has got to be 8 weeks in, and he is stuck at about 227, and he started at 220. he is 6' 1" and about 14% bf. he eats like a mad man, but cant gain anymore. any advice?

CJWolf · 03-27-2003, 07:51 PM

that's not really that bad at all ... cyp and enanthate are about the same anyways, so they'll work just like nothing happened.

Billy_Bathgate · 03-27-2003, 07:53 PM

No it wont take another 4 wks to kick in, the gains should just continue, or actually increase since his dosage near doubled.

**musclebuilder** · 03-27-2003, 07:56 PM

maybe he needs to eat even more, and make sure to increase his protein intake. i dont think he gets enough protein. his last cycle he gained about 15 pounds and kept it, and he did the same things he is doing now.

BullFX · 03-27-2003, 08:16 PM

tell him add 1 k calories ... he WILL gain more

**smalls** · 03-27-2003, 08:18 PM

Yeah, I agree with bullFX. Check out the post "why am I not putting on weight". Some good replys there on a similar problem.

**trancedelt** · 03-27-2003, 09:18 PM

what the hell, i dont get this...
the guy is 220, so he is either fat or has built up some decent muscle mass, ill assume the muscle.
So he obviously knows how to eat to gain. Why would he not gain on the cycle? I don't think the gear is real..

powerforward · 03-27-2003, 09:28 PM

your not gonna gain 20-30 lbs every cycle...there's alot of factors how many cycles has he done?what has he used?eating like a madman doesn't matter if you eat the wrong foods.gear alone will not give you the body of your dreams...proper diet and a lot of hard work will the gear just helps us along....has he noticed stregnth gains?this is also an effect of the gear.it may not be bad gear at all.then again...i don't know...good luck!

**Massive1** · 03-27-2003, 10:16 PM

7 pounds in 8 wks sucks. That's possible to do natural. Your boy should eat more.

**musclebuilder** · 04-03-2003, 01:06 PM

he eats more than i ever could. he is at almost 230, and he is pretty solid (im guessing 14% bf tops), and the gear is real...there are pictures on here posted by RC51RACER...i have the same gear.

**prolangtum** · 04-03-2003, 01:30 PM

14% isnt that solid

**musclebuilder** · 04-03-2003, 07:35 PM

I said tips, lets put it this way, he is pretty skinny

**RC51racer** · 04-03-2003, 08:16 PM

Has he seen any gains lately???

**smalls** · 04-03-2003, 08:37 PM

The point that I think most people are trying to make is that if is not gaining any weight then he isnt eating enough, regardless of how much he currently eats. Now it could be ghetto gear too, I have heard some bad stuff about different vet gears regarding results, but still if he is not gaining he needs to eat until he is.

**rippedchef** · 04-03-2003, 08:58 PM

need more specific info to formulate an opinion

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