Tweetthe ester doesnt play a big role, your probably going to gain the same whether you use cyp, enan, or prop. Prop will kick in a little faster though, so you will start gaining sooner.

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Originally posted by x|Fluid|x
the ester doesnt play a big role, your probably going to gain the same whether you use cyp, enan, or prop. Prop will kick in a little faster though, so you will start gaining sooner.

he's right, any kind of test would do great on anyone pretty much. I would just use QV as everyone know's that's all I use. D-bol will definately "kick" start it for you, good luck kid.

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Originally posted by mc277
alright guys, im planing my next bulk cycle. Im 22, 5 ft. 7in 163 and about 6.5 bf... i want to run dbol, deca and test but I am having trouble deciding what kind of test to run. I dont want to use qv ethanate because i've heard too many bad things about it.. and I dont have access to any other brands. would I have better gains off of prop or cyp? Either way I will try to run 400mg test a week. I know prop is ed injection but that dosent really bother me..

wk 1-4 35mg ed reforvit
wk 1-10 300mg deca
wk 1-10 400mg test (prop or cyp) with your help deciding

loeffler reforvit
qv everyting else.
thanks for the help guys.

What bad stuff have you heard about? I'm using it right now and have had no problems and i'm using the 50ml too!! With very little pain i might add.....

you could always go with some EQL gear

TweetIf I were you, I'd run the Cyp WITH the Prop. This is obviously not your first cycle anyway. Enanthate is actually very good, just a little more pain due to the alcohol. Next time, try to find some Sus250 amps, either Omnadrens or the Cytahoh. You will probably love Sustanon, they are awesome...and my favorites.

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Originally posted by Muraco
If I were you, I'd run the Cyp WITH the Prop. This is obviously not your first cycle anyway. Enanthate is actually very good, just a little more pain due to the alcohol. Next time, try to find some Sus250 amps, either Omnadrens or the Cytahoh. You will probably love Sustanon, they are awesome...and my favorites.

Why the sust? I thought you got more "raw" test from a bottle of enanthate than you did sust

TweetI have found that prop is more painfull than any other ester IMO.

Tweeteqlgearstud, I have read on hear that several people have said that some of the resent batches of qv ethanate has been very painful.. I would like to try some eql gear but unfortunatly my supplier only carries qv...

Tweeti love sus. i use organon and have great results from it. my last cycle i used 500mg sus 400 deca 30 dbol for first 4 weeks and gained 35 lbs.

Tweetthat last post by jman20 was actually me, i was signed in under my roomates name, sorry if I confused anyone.

TweetAlways got more muscle density and bodyweight gains off the Sus250, although the others are great to alternate cycles with. How is the EQL Sus250? I hear they make that now also.

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Originally posted by jman20
eqlgearstud, I have read on hear that several people have said that some of the resent batches of qv ethanate has been very painful.. I would like to try some eql gear but unfortunatly my supplier only carries qv...

what are you trying to get at :p

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Originally posted by Muraco
Always got more muscle density and bodyweight gains off the Sus250, although the others are great to alternate cycles with. How is the EQL Sus250? I hear they make that now also.

hmmm you might have convinced me to use sust. But that winny/suspension combo looks pretty nice...

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Originally posted by mc277
alright guys, im planing my next bulk cycle. Im 22, 5 ft. 7in 163 and about 6.5 bf... i want to run dbol, deca and test but I am having trouble deciding what kind of test to run. I dont want to use qv ethanate because i've heard too many bad things about it.. and I dont have access to any other brands. would I have better gains off of prop or cyp? Either way I will try to run 400mg test a week. I know prop is ed injection but that dosent really bother me..

wk 1-4 35mg ed reforvit
wk 1-10 300mg deca
wk 1-10 400mg test (prop or cyp) with your help deciding

loeffler reforvit
qv everyting else.
thanks for the help guys.

Test is Test. Prop is a fast acting ester and Cyp is a long-acting ester.