TweetWHY RUN TEST E AND SUST TOGETHER. AND IS IT 250 SUST A DAY OR A WEEK. IF ITS A WEEK YIOU NEED A MINIMUM OF 500 OF SUST A WEEK i MEAN IF YOU WANT TO RUN THEM TOGETHER GO FOR IT I GUESS.AND I GOT GOOD RESULTS AT TREN-A 3 X A WEEK BETTER EOD THOUGH. AND WHY NOT RUN HCG EVERY SAT SUN AT 500 IUS DURING THE CYCLE. KEEP THE NOLVA AT 20MG THROUGH OUT AND EXEM AT 25

Tweet600 mg EQ
Start it 2 weeks before the TE for 16 weeks... It that it about 3-4 weeks for it to start working on me. YMMV but this works great for me. Good Luck and post what ya do bro
How many cycles you run before this one?

Red

Tweeti agree with fuzo about running the hcg every weekend at 500/sat and sun though out. it looks like you just want the sus for a kick start seeing how your only doing it for 4 weeks. i'd still up it if i had enough, but if not, with the d-bol, it should get the job done. looks like the primary is test/tren e and eq stack...good stack! i've done well with that, but i had to run eq a little higher. also, you may want to start the eq a little earlier likw redstone2 said. good luck, keep us posted!

TweetI have the sust lying around anyway, so I fiured I'd use it for the first 4 wks to frontload until the test E kicks in. It's 250 a week

I wanted to run the tren enan this time to keep injections limited to a week. I used tren A last cycle EOD and I'm kinda tired of EOD injects for the moments.

As for the HCG, it usually comes at 1500 iu per ml, and I find it hard to split a single mg. But I could follow your adive and use 750 sat and sun, and use a slin syringe for better measurement.


Btw, should the EQ be stopped sooner than the test?

Originally Posted by FUZO

WHY RUN TEST E AND SUST TOGETHER. AND IS IT 250 SUST A DAY OR A WEEK. IF ITS A WEEK YIOU NEED A MINIMUM OF 500 OF SUST A WEEK i MEAN IF YOU WANT TO RUN THEM TOGETHER GO FOR IT I GUESS.AND I GOT GOOD RESULTS AT TREN-A 3 X A WEEK BETTER EOD THOUGH. AND WHY NOT RUN HCG EVERY SAT SUN AT 500 IUS DURING THE CYCLE. KEEP THE NOLVA AT 20MG THROUGH OUT AND EXEM AT 25

TweetSo you start the EQ 2 weeks before the entire cycle starts, just on it's own?

Do you drop it when you start using the test to 400, or is your advice to keep it at 600?

I've only ran a cycle or 5 or so, mostly lean mass cycles. I don't want it to be to harsh.

Originally Posted by Redstone2

600 mg EQ
Start it 2 weeks before the TE for 16 weeks... It that it about 3-4 weeks for it to start working on me. YMMV but this works great for me. Good Luck and post what ya do bro
How many cycles you run before this one?

Red

Tweetso the EQ starts before everything else, 2 weeks out, and stays @ 600 the entire cycle?

I only have 1500 iu min. Can I use a 1000, and keep the remaining 500 in the fridge till the next weekend.

And yes the sust is to frontload. I do have enough actually. So how much would you be using? If I up it, do I still need the dbol?

Originally Posted by daved150

i agree with fuzo about running the hcg every weekend at 500/sat and sun though out. it looks like you just want the sus for a kick start seeing how your only doing it for 4 weeks. i'd still up it if i had enough, but if not, with the d-bol, it should get the job done. looks like the primary is test/tren e and eq stack...good stack! i've done well with that, but i had to run eq a little higher. also, you may want to start the eq a little earlier likw redstone2 said. good luck, keep us posted!

TweetBtw, what would be a good caloric intake to start off with. I currently weigh about 90 kgs, and have about 13 % bf. I'd really like to eat clean on this cycle, and I would really really gain as much muscle as possible with the least amount of fat gain as possible.

In other terms, but abs are just showing, and I would really like to keep it that way.

I currently eat about 2500 kcal a day to stay at my current level.

Tweet

Originally Posted by cyberstefke

so the EQ starts before everything else, 2 weeks out, and stays @ 600 the entire cycle?

I only have 1500 iu min. Can I use a 1000, and keep the remaining 500 in the fridge till the next weekend.

And yes the sust is to frontload. I do have enough actually. So how much would you be using? If I up it, do I still need the dbol?

yes...start the eq before everything else and stay 600 (i personally have to go higher with eq, but i certainly tried lower my first run to see how it went).

use 500iu sat and 500iu sun and refridge the rest untill next weekend.

also, i used 500mg sus for my kickoff. again, this is what worked for me. with the d-bol, you could still see good results with 250 sus, but if you upped the sus, you wouldnt really need the d-bol in my opinion, but you still could use it if you wanted.

Tweetis this a correct recap then?

wks 3 - 16 : test enan @ 500 mg / wk
wks 1- 16 : EQ @ 600 mg / wk
wks 3 - 6 : sust @ 500 mg/wk
wks 7 - 16 : tren enanth @ 300 mg / wk

wks 1-16: nolva @ 20 mg / day + exemestan @ 25 mg /day

wks 17 - 22: nolva @ 40 mg /day
wks 17 - 20: exemestan @ 50 / day

hcg @ 500 iu each sat and sun

wks 15 - 17 : hcg @ 500 iu /day


Btw, Do you have to cut out EQ two weeks before ending with the test, or this not true?

Tweetlooks good. i never have stoped it 2weeks before, but i know alot of guys that do.

TweetSince Boldenone is an undecylenate ester, staying active about 4 weeks, you could stop it 2 weeks early w/o problems or run pct a week longer. You mentioned to about front loading with a higher dose, no problem if you want to try it but since EQ has such a low rate of aromatisation staying at 600 mg (this higher dose is needed by most individuals) is no problem to, just your call if you want a more complex cycle. I like simple.

Red

Tweetenanthate kicks in a couple weeks faster than sus for me. I've never been satisfied with my response from sus though and the last few times I had sus I hit it eod. I have never heard of anyone really noticing much from sus until about a month or so in, but it will help out. Just don't look for it to be like boosting with 50mg d-bol or anything. Good luck. Eat and train like a demon and you should grow good.