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My EQL deca vial UNDERfilled.
TweetI just did my 15th shot, shooting twice a week 1/2 ml along with 1 ml of there sust. I might have enough for 2 more shots at the most left. That would make it at least 1 1/2 ml under filled. Not to pleased with that as it is rumored to be overfilled. The sust lookes like it will finish nicely. Other than that I'm pleased with results. Just thought that information should be shared with others. Hopefully for others I'm just one of the unlucky to get one of these vials.
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TweetI don't have experience with EQL, but note that for each shot there will be about 0.1 cc wasted in the syringe. For example, if you draw to the 0.5cc mark on the syringe you will actually be drawing 0.6cc. So if you have done 15 shots you would have drawn an extra 1.5cc from the bottle.
Tweethmm... good point. I've never thought of that. I know now!
Tweetgood pointOriginally posted by tyron14
I don't have experience with EQL, but note that for each shot there will be about 0.1 cc wasted in the syringe. For example, if you draw to the 0.5cc mark on the syringe you will actually be drawing 0.6cc. So if you have done 15 shots you would have drawn an extra 1.5cc from the bottle.
TweetCorrect. This fact, combined with the fact that most of us overdraw anyway, makes me roll my eyes at all the moaning about underfilled vials. Most vials are probably right on IMO. One solution - Get some b12, draw that first so that when you inject there's cheap b12 left in the syringe instead of expensive juice...Originally posted by tyron14
I don't have experience with EQL, but note that for each shot there will be about 0.1 cc wasted in the syringe. For example, if you draw to the 0.5cc mark on the syringe you will actually be drawing 0.6cc. So if you have done 15 shots you would have drawn an extra 1.5cc from the bottle.
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TweetYeah I'm just digging for something bad to say. You figured me out. Boy reading that got my blood flowing. I'm just stating a damn fact of what I'm experiencing with the product. If I was digging for something bad to say I would have also said I havent gained a frigging pound but I've gained 20 lbs. This board is starting to piss me off when someone has something to say that isnt all positive about there product they get put down. I visit this board every day. Just cause I'm not a post ***** doesnt make me a bad person.
This is my first cycle but I cant imagine losing that much each time. If this is the case then in all my reading this is first time I have ever heard this mentioned. This Should always be stated to someone looking for advice on a first cycle. Because I know Joe Blow doing his first shot isnt going to draw .4cc of something when he is advised to take .5cc Just using that # as an example
Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups
Tweetgood idea....or you could just use a small amount of sterile oil which would be cheaper as wellOriginally posted by 46and2aheadofme
Correct. This fact, combined with the fact that most of us overdraw anyway, makes me roll my eyes at all the moaning about underfilled vials. Most vials are probably right on IMO. One solution - Get some b12, draw that first so that when you inject there's cheap b12 left in the syringe instead of expensive juice...
TweetAnd this is why we use the 'airlock' procedure that is in every good nurses handbook.
Tweetno one was putting you down. you don't notice that there is some juice left when you're done injecting?Originally posted by bowbow
Yeah I'm just digging for something bad to say. You figured me out. Boy reading that got my blood flowing. I'm just stating a damn fact of what I'm experiencing with the product. If I was digging for something bad to say I would have also said I havent gained a frigging pound but I've gained 20 lbs. This board is starting to piss me off when someone has something to say that isnt all positive about there product they get put down. I visit this board every day. Just cause I'm not a post ***** doesnt make me a bad person.
This is my first cycle but I cant imagine losing that much each time. If this is the case then in all my reading this is first time I have ever heard this mentioned. This Should always be stated to someone looking for advice on a first cycle. Because I know Joe Blow doing his first shot isnt going to draw .4cc of something when he is advised to take .5cc Just using that # as an example
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TweetLet me ask this. There is also 1cc of sust in with each inj. of the deca. Twice as much sust than deca. Seems like I would only be losing a third of the deca that you guys are stating and it would be 2/3rds sust that is lost not all deca. Explain that to me please? Just tring to understand.
Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups
TweetYeah, every time i load up a syringe it always goes a little past the 1 cc mark. So if you have a 10cc bottle with exactly 10cc your going to end up a shot short probably.
Tweetu should always know the range of mg u want a week or day. this way u can cut short just a little. i usually draw .9cc of or a little between .9cc and 1cc this way i have enough to fill my schedule whether diamond, pyramid, straight arrow, etc. in my opinion its a matter of how long ur own something not just the dose, bcuz either way ur gonna get something out of it. i personally believe in minimal dose. don't flame these are just my opinions
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TweetHmm I think I am going to try that. I was looking up the researchkits.com site and saw they had "USP oil" is that the same as sterile oil?Originally posted by bigjim33
good idea....or you could just use a small amount of sterile oil which would be cheaper as well
Tweetdid you draw up the deca first and then the sust?Originally posted by bowbow
Let me ask this. There is also 1cc of sust in with each inj. of the deca. Twice as much sust than deca. Seems like I would only be losing a third of the deca that you guys are stating and it would be 2/3rds sust that is lost not all deca. Explain that to me please? Just tring to understand.
TweetActually, that is why the plunger is conical shaped. It facors in that loss. There may be aditional loss in the actual metallic pin, but as far as in the end of they syringe all the way up the very very tip of the plastic where it goes into the needle, it is all accounted for. You will not lose .1ml per shot from the needle. Try like .025-.05. We are talking 1 or 2 drops here max.
Sure you may lose more than that when you inject, but we are talking about drawing here, not injecting. As far as drawing, syringes are very acurate.
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