Tweetthat is a damn low dose of eq. i tried it once at 350mg/wk and it didnt do much.
most people recommend a high dose with eq but thats low for pretty much anything.
TweetWhat's up guys, was thinkin bout starting a new cycle in September , this is what I was thinking
Test e 500mg/wk - wks 1-12
Eq 250mg/wk - wks 1-12
Whinny 40mg/ed - wks 10-15
Was gonna go on 20mg/ed novla and .25mg of ldex for anti e's, and clomid for PCT.
here are some stats to give you guys a little background on me..
25yrs old
205lbs
14% bf
in the past i've run a few ph cycles, 1AD and M1T, and run 1 cycle of test e at 500mgs for 12 wks. tell me what you guys think.
Tweetthat is a damn low dose of eq. i tried it once at 350mg/wk and it didnt do much.
most people recommend a high dose with eq but thats low for pretty much anything.
TweetCycle looks good. I agree with what Whitetail said. I agree to up the EQ to 350 a week. You may want to get some Shark Cartillage or glucosimine for the winny dose. 40mg is pretty normal, but guys I know report joint pain on anything over 30mg. You're doing the winny for 5 weeks, but 6 to 8 is do-able also if you have enough. But the EQ and test combo should shoot your strength up pretty damn good.Originally Posted by robs2001
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TweetI do have enough for 8 weeks, since it's only my second cycle I figure i'd start with 5 week, you guys think 8 weeks would be ok? should I run the whinny from wks 8-15? forgot to mention, for the liver i'll be taking liv-52 and milk thistle, and for the joints will be taking glucosimine. Btw thank for the advice on the eq, will bump it up to 350.
TweetYea, the liv 52 and milk thistle is good, but don't forget to drink about a gallon of water a day to clean everything out.Originally Posted by robs2001
As for waiting until the end of your cycle to run the winny, let me tell you my thought on stuff like winny and eq at cycles end. Everyone I explain this to agrees it makes sense.
If you're going for bulk, what adds muscle? Besides the obvious answers like food, protein, sleep, etc.... the other answer is heavy weights. Heavy weights build muscle. The earlier in your cycle you do the strength gainers, the better your results IMO. I know you're not looking for bulk with a cycle like this, but the same applies to cutters as well. You'll gain quality lean muscle from the winny.
Why not do the test, eq, and winny all at the same time in the beginning? Run the winny from weeks 1-8, then stop and keep the eq and the test going.
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Tweet350 even seems a low dose for the EQ, especially if only running it for 12 weeks too. I would bump it up to 450 or 500. Angryoldman makes agood point too. If I were to run winstrol for a cycle aimed at gaining mass, I would run it towards the front, where strength gains would be best put to use. If it were used in a cycle where leaning up was the main focus, I would run it at the end to help prevent a decrease in performance and help preserve muscle mass.
The way that you have it layed out so the winny overlaps the time your waiting for your esters to clears makes sense though too.
Tweettest is good ...split it twice a week and run eq for 16 weeks either 400 mg or 600 mg and split it twice a week and then winny from week 11-16..Originally Posted by robs2001
i would run the test all the way to week 16 as well and u can drop ur test to 250 mg the last 5 weeks if u want to....
Tweetdrop the eq unless you can get it to at least 400mg per week for 12-16. otherwise, i think you're just wasting the eq
TweetUp the eq to 400 or 500mg and run it a wk longer, the rest looks pretty good.
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TweetDef up the EQ to 500-600mg/wk and run the whole cycle for at least 14wks.
TweetHow does this look:
Test E 500mg/wk - wks 1-11
Test E 250mg/wk - wks 12-16
Eq 500mg/wk - wks 1-16
Whinny 40mg/ed - wks 11-16
And I was thinkin bout using Proviron instead of Novla but I've read that you should take it for more then a month, what are you guys thoughts on that.
TweetI still say run the winny from week 1 to 8Originally Posted by robs2001
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TweetI like that better, but you really don't have to taper the test for 5 wks or even taper since after your last inject it will take about three wks for the enathate to fully leave your system, but thats up to you.Originally Posted by robs2001
TweetHow bout the Proviron, what do you guys think about that?
TweetId run ldex @ .25mg ed thruout cycle or aroma, and just keep the nolva on hand. You don't really need both for this cycle. Only thing i use the Proviron for is libido and to harden up during the cycle. It would prob work well when you start using the winstrol. Start with 25mg ed and after a wk or two you can up to 50mg ed if you want.