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Originally Posted by Skarhead

For PCT i always gain a tiny amount of fat back, im assuming that its from my metabolism returning to normal. I don't want to use clen b/c it causes heart problems (so im told) t3/dnp are out of the question... I was thinking IGF even though fat loss isnt its primary action. Is there any mild fat bur ner out there i could use?

clen causes heart problems or provokes them if you're prone to it? IE high blood pressure

TweetAre you looking for an over the counter fat burner? I can't think of any non over the counter fatburners (thermogenics, not appetite supressants) that are "mild". As far as over the counter stuff... there is a pleathora availible, and everyone will tell you one is better than the other.

In your post yesterday you said you were trying to gain about 5 or so pounds of lean muscle and reduce your bf by 1% (test e and masteron right?). Are you usually able to bulk up on cutting cycles and still reduce bodyfat? If so i envy you bro... On cutting cycles i am lucky to maintain lbm and just concentrate on sheding bf. I would say if that if you can pull of putting on muscle while losing fat at the same time you are gifted geneticly and losing what little fat you might put on during pct could be done easily with a really clean diet and some serious cardio.

Sorry if this isn't much help bro... good luck and keep us posted.

TweetGear usually makes me shed BF and add LBM definately.. My diet is pretty clean>. im only looking to get 5-7 lbm , and shed only a little bit of fat

TweetOh I don't plan to cut any cals at all, im aware I'll lose gains. I just want something that keeps my metabolism at a high level on while on pct

TweetJust eat clean......not everything it has to be AAS.....

TweetIf you basically just want a mild "boost", then just try some of the basic fat burners over the counter. Other than what you've listed above, there really isn't any gear that will give that too you.....keep it up bro and keep us posted

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Originally Posted by GirlPatriot

Your "back fat" gain during PCT is from fluctuating estrogen levels. It is most likely all water. I am assuming that it eventually disappears since you have done a few cycles and your back doesn't look like a sack of jello. You will probably be better of to make sure and keep your sodium intake low, drink extra water and take an OTC diuretic if necessary.

Oh ya, that too....so smart!!

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Originally Posted by GirlPatriot

Your "back fat"

don't ever mention this again, I am sensitive

TweetWhat do you mean by back fat?

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Originally Posted by GirlPatriot

I think he means, subcutaneuous fatty tissue located around the back area.

I think he meant that he gains a little bit of fat back (fat returns) while entering PCT. I don't think he meant gaining fat literally on the back.

TweetBack fat...lol

Tweetwhat about gh?

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Originally Posted by HungarianBeast

I think he meant that he gains a little bit of fat back (fat returns) while entering PCT. I don't think he meant gaining fat literally on the back.

yeah thats what i was referring to lol

yeah im aware of the fluctuating estrogen levels. im going to try and keep my nolva pct a little higher or even try l-dex

i am also conteplating running some igf for pct