Tweetu need more bro. u need more deca, more primo. u should have 36 clomid and nolva for pct. what were your doses on your previous cycles?

TweetIf you decide to follow through with the above.....Maybe try this:
Test @ 600 wk 1-10
Deca @ 300 wk 1-10
Primo...I've never run it, So i'm not gonna hand out bad advice from lack of exp.
Winny @ 50mg/day wk 7-10...or 10-13 (i like the second, myself)
Clen @ 20,40,60,80,100,120 (for two wk) ,(then off 2wk) ramp up again
* This clen ramp above is just my personal exp. It, for some reason, seemed to work better for me this way, but we're all a little different with fat burners, sides, etc...
*PCT: Listen to what Edvedr said above...I agree with that
*Be careful, safe, and continue w/ your research bro....Shiner

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Originally Posted by Shiner22nd

If you decide to follow through with the above.....Maybe try this:
Test @ 600 wk 1-10
Deca @ 300 wk 1-10
Primo...I've never run it, So i'm not gonna hand out bad advice from lack of exp.
Winny @ 50mg/day wk 7-10...or 10-13 (i like the second, myself)
Clen @ 20,40,60,80,100,120 (for two wk) ,(then off 2wk) ramp up again
* This clen ramp above is just my personal exp. It, for some reason, seemed to work better for me this way, but we're all a little different with fat burners, sides, etc...
*PCT: Listen to what Edvedr said above...I agree with that
*Be careful, safe, and continue w/ your research bro....Shiner

i like it if he is not able to get more deca. the primo needs to be run at high doses, so he is better off holding on to what he has

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Originally Posted by edvedr

i like it if he is not able to get more deca. the primo needs to be run at high doses, so he is better off holding on to what he has

I agree. Yes, you need more clomid and nolva.

TweetAll my other cycles were sust at 500 and eq at 400 for 12 weeks. I will get more clomid and nolva.

TweetHow far apart were all your other cycles? No offense, but after 4 cycles, 176lbs is a bit small at your height.

Tweet"but after 4 cycles, 176lbs is a bit small at your height"

I was 215 and have dieted down to 165 for awhile, now I'm at the 175 range. I was jiped in the gene pool and, like my father, grandfather, etc, so much of my weight I put on goes to my belly no matter what I have done. On my previous cycles, I ate like there was no tomorrow. I don't want to go through that again as the older I get, the harder it is to get the weight off. The diet will be in check on this upcoming cycle.
I am working towards lean gains this time, not bulk.

TweetThat's probably a good idea (lean gains) for a goal, if in fact your genes are that way. That way your weight will stay in order. I have a minor case of that. My build is fine and my muscularity is good, but I tend to hold losts of water and a little fat in my stomach, chest and lower back. Good luck with it bro...Shiner

TweetPersonally I think the primoteston @ 500mg (2 amps/wk) for 13 wks, the deca at 300mg (1cc/wk) for 10 wks, and winny ed for @ 50mg for 6 wks will yield very good gains. You have been off for a year so I'm sure your body will respond very well. Plus you only way 175lbs. All the other gear is not necessary except for clomid and nolv. Just get some more of those and you should be set. Hcg would be nice too. How much is in the one you have?

But trust me bro, you do not need to do more than what you have.

The cycle could look like this:
wks 1-13 test 500mg
wks 1-10 deca 300mg or wks 3-12 to clear AAS at the same time
wks wks 9-14 winny 50mg ed or you could run the winny for the first 4-6 wks for jump start and again at the end for 4-6 wks
PCT nolv/clomid/hcg and hcg from for the second half of cycle if you can

TweetHave you used deca before? Im not a fan, especially if your looking for lean muscle. Of course alot of it is diet.

TweetThanks JsJs24...I appreciate that answer. The HCG is 5000iu. As for the Deca...no, have not done before, this will be the first. Diet was my downfall before and that will not happen again.

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Originally Posted by harorider

Thanks JsJs24...I appreciate that answer. The HCG is 5000iu. As for the Deca...no, have not done before, this will be the first. Diet was my downfall before and that will not happen again.

The deca will be fine at 300mg then, I am speaking from exp bro. Most like to use it at 400mg first time but 300 will give you just as good of gains imo. How many ml is the hcg? You might have enough.

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Originally Posted by JsJs24

The deca will be fine at 300mg then, I am speaking from exp bro. Most like to use it at 400mg first time but 300 will give you just as good of gains imo. How many ml is the hcg? You might have enough.

how dare you disagree with me!!!