TweetI have YET to read one iota of scientifif data to support any such notion!

Tweetnimho never had any probs

TweetIMO: the same as any other AS would!

Tweetit doesnt go through the kidneys does it ? if injected i mean

Tweetjust like any drug, it effects kidneys and liver to some degree.

TweetI can be tough on the liver just like taking D-bol. You don't want to run the two together.

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Originally posted by ken69dahl
I can be tough on the liver just like taking D-bol. You don't want to run the two together.

i dont think u can liken taking fina to taking dbol, fina is not a 17aa, IMO it is just as hard on ur liver as test is

TweetIt has not been proven, but if I slack on my water, I feel it in my kidneys. So my answer would be yes. But like I said - it has yet to be proven. I don't need "scientific data" to tell me when my kidneys hurt and they are being damaged. LOL

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Originally posted by teekahty
fina shuts you down hard though it is not the easiest of drugs to take in my expierence

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I love it! I know what you mean though. It makes me very uneasy. I actually had 2 panic attacks while on it. I don't like the fact that you can taste it when you inject either. Something just kinda wierd about it...

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Originally posted by goliath
It has not been proven, but if I slack on my water, I feel it in my kidneys. So my answer would be yes. But like I said - it has yet to be proven. I don't need "scientific data" to tell me when my kidneys hurt and they are being damaged. LOL

I agree bro, a science sheet means nothing when you can tell from yrs of usage and pains caused from certain aas.

Only time and road testing it can be determined how much damage it can cause, along with blood tests.

I never tasted fina or had fina couch after injects?

TweetI've only got the cough and taste when I run it alone or in real high concentrations. when I shoot it mixed with prop in a syringe, never a prob.

TweetAs far as its effect on the kidney, remember that all, ALL drugs are metabolized by liver and kidney enzymes. Some use up more of one than the other. The prob with some drugs is that they dont get totally metabolized by the liver enzymes and have to be passed or broken down in your kidney. Some meds can actually be hepatotoxic or nephrotoxic (actually damage or kill liver/kidney cells). The nephrotoxics are very rare (good because these cells dont replicate). The hepatotoxics are easier to deal with because the liver has some ability to repair itself.
No aas by itself is truely hepato/nephro toxic. the prob comes about when you load on a crap load of orals, mix it with tren, and some tylenol, and a bottle of jack. then your metabolic enzymes get depleted and the crap in your blood which all has to go through the liver and then gets filtered through the kidneys can cause some damage.
In short, tren has not been documented to cause either liver or kidney damage in healthy patients (at our dosages, take 5 g of tren ED and you better have your plot picked out).

Tweetinteresting post koss...