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Originally Posted by proxonetapimp

MANY THANX boyz I will consider all of the above mentioned, will advise on my final aproach to aas.

one final question,,, what do u guys think about the short cycles protocol. I mean cycles of no more than 4-6 wks .

Now you can send ALL of us some $$$ via Western Union

TweetI personally wouldn't go less than 8

Tweetif you knew how much i spend for the 4 bottles of QV var ... now i have a hole in my pocket, considering that right now im in mexico and still that shit is xpensive (even when i got it from a qv distributor ), I mean i would have spend way too much if i purchased em in the states...

so i thank you so much for your kind consideration and free information =)

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Originally Posted by proxonetapimp

if you knew how much i spend for the 4 bottles of QV var ... now i have a hole in my pocket, considering that right now im in mexico and still that shit is xpensive (even when i got it from a qv distributor )

You got fucked with no KY is what happened. Even a QV distributor will always give you lower prices than pharmacias

You got screwed my friend

Tweetshort cycles will work, but you need drugs of very short esters.

Tweet[QUOTE=GirlPatriot]. I am a woman and run 20-25mg ed on var. To be effective I would recommend you increase that dose to 40-50mg ed. QUOTE]

what do you mean when you say "ed"? each day?

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Originally Posted by GirlPatriot

. I am a woman and run 20-25mg ed on var. To be effective I would recommend you increase that dose to 40-50mg ed. QUOTE]

what do you mean when you say "ed"? each day?

Yuppers! ED = every day, EOD = every other day

Tweetok i think i need to start a new post...thanks blink

TweetMy point is that orals are not as toxic as originally claimed. It's just my opinion that we start acting like that is a fact instead of saying it and then turning around and recommending liver protectors as if it isn't.
The theory on liver toxicity came from a study on AIDS patients who had been on Anadrol for 18 months without a break. No bodybuilder takes orals that long. The results of the study (on patients who had compromised immune systems), was that after 18 months on anadrol, they had elevated liver values. Now they are saying that an elevated liver value does not necessarily translate into a damaged liver. Additionally, aspirin, advil and tylenol also cause elevated liver values. After the study, the AIDS patients liver values returned to normal within 3 months of discontinuing the anadrol.
I'm not recommending anybody do what I do. I would just like to see this myth die.

TweetI have had extremely high liver values from 30mg of m-1t, after 3 weeks...

I know the liver is a remarkable organ, that generally can repair itself, but I cant condone or reccomend someone do something that would compromise their health like that.

I would reccomend someone take NSAIDS for a long period of time either, because of the toxicity.

TweetBro, I don't have a beef with you.
If I needed advice about something you are one of the people I would ask.
But, comparing M-1-t which is methylated and infinately harder on your liver to orals which are alpha alkylated is comparing apples to oranges.
I reiterate, I don't recommend anyone do what I do.
I'm only saying that 1. orals are not toxic at the amounts and duration that bodybuilders use them and 2. elevated liver enzymes does not = liver damage.

TweetLol, you know i dont have a beef with you either DR. Not even close....I guess i am just more on the "safe side"! Like i said, i would feel bad telling someone to run something 10 weeks and then they have trouble because they have a weak liver...see where i coming from.

TweetYes, it's better to err on the side of safety.

I just didn't want you to think I was starting something with you.