TweetIMO, i would run the Deca at 400mg/wk and the EQ bump up to at least 500mg/wk. I would run winny 35-40mg ed wks 9-14 to cut up if you can get some. I don't think there would be a benefit to running the dbol at the end.

Tweetmick g is right again, i think it is the same cycle as u did mick last time if i'am not mistaken.

TweetStill waiting to do it lol! I was going to run the Karachi with it instead of enanthate.

TweetThat's my next cycle almost to the milliliter except that i will be using the sus instead of enth like Mick said, and i might throw in some GH for good measure towards the end. Right now im 210 lbs at 6'1 10% bodyfat. Hoping to get to 230 lbs and drop the bodyfat some.

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Originally posted by Bigdan322
That's my next cycle almost to the milliliter except that i will be using the sus instead of enth like Mick said,

I am going to be using sust. Read my post. Karachi is sust.

TweetDo not do HCG post cycle. I can't understand why people do this! It only further delays your natural test from coming back online. Although HCG does stimulate endogenous testosterone production, it doesn't help in regaining the normal HPTA. The hypothalamus and pituitary are still down after a steroid cycle, and remain this way while HCG is being used, because the endogenous testosterone produced as a result of the exogenous HCG represses the endogenous LH production. Once the HCG is discontinued, then the ACTUAL post-cycle can begin. So there is absolutely no point in taking is after your regular cycle, because that is almost the same as extending your cycle.

TweetIf you notice Chotto, Dirtyluke1 is using the HCG on Wks 15 and 16, waiting a wk and then starting clomid on wk 18. I think it depends on the person. Some ppl have a hard time in getting their natural testosterone to start back up after a cycle and here is where HCG comes into play. It will trick the part of the brain into producing endogenous LH, therefore stimulating testes to produce its natural testosterone for proper sperm production. Cycles including testostorone will not stimulate sperm production in the testes, so saying it is the same as continuing a cycle or prolonging it is not true. It is the time between going off the HCG and starting the clomid is where there may be a natural shutdown of the natural test because the sensory of the hypothalamus and pituitary will be once more put on it our natural axis of LH production. So, the fact that he will be using the HCG to help in stimulate LH will help and not shut him down during its use.

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Oh come bro... taking 100IU on Mon, Wed, Friday throughout hte cycle is the only way to go. If you take it during cycle, then your balls never shrink. The reason your balls shrink during a cycle is that your axis of wonders stops telling your balls to make test. HCG is like a direct lutenizing hormone message to the balls, thus bypassing your HPTA's little system of checks and balances... you produce test even in the presence of extensive androgens. Taking it after cycle is MORONIC!!!!! Your first concern should be to restore LH production. Well, if you are supplying your balls with artificial LH, then your pituitary doesn't need to make any and you do not resume production. Right when you stop the HCG, you are in the same position as if you had just stopped the cycle. In addition, the HCG temporarily desensitizes your balls to LH messages, thus making your recovery even harder. So now you have let your balls decay during the cycle, and slowed down your recovery post cycle.