TweetHi, I'm currently a college wrestler and a MMA fighter. I have lifted on and off for about six years now. I weight around 200 now when im in season i wrestle 184 and fight at 185 . I want to harden up but not bulk too big. I have never used but i was considering a 3 month cycle or so just to get some viens and some definition. i want to start soon so i can be well off my cycle by next season. i dont plan to continuously use. i just want to go on one short cycle. i am thinking fina. what do you guys think?

Tweetalso, rumor has it that you can obtain finaplix legally. is it illegal if you synthesize it?

Tweetits not illegal to buy it. its illegal for you to distribute it in synthsized form, or to use it on yourself.

i'd highly suggest running tren with your size at 100mg each day. i'd also look into synovex and converting yourself some test prop. i'd run that around 100-150mg eod. i'd run that combo for about 12 weeks. look into some clomid and other stuff for post therapy. i dont get shut down easy, but most people will tell you two things.

1) dont run tren every day run it every other day, and probably at 150mg.

2) you are going to get shutdown hard so add some test in there unless you like your dick being limp.

i saw best results with tren using it ED, and i've done 3 cycles with it. i didnt do post therapy, but i should have. i managed to keep most of my gains no problem for 3-4 months before i had to stop working out, then i slowly lost them. its great stuff, just add the test.

Tweetbro from the looks of u, it looks like u dont need any juice at all. but if ure still interested id suggest a prop/fina cycle. dont run tren without some test. i also liked tren at ed shots. had great results id do something like this

1-8 prop 75ml ed
1-8 tren 75ml ed

good luck to u and let us know what u decide.

Tweetreason why i suggested a bit longer cycle then boss was because of your refrence to vascularity. i got some, but i didnt start seeing it until a bit later on. so a bit longer would have made them really come out.

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Originally posted by markriley
Hi, I'm currently a college wrestler and a MMA fighter. I have lifted on and off for about six years now. I weight around 200 now when im in season i wrestle 184 and fight at 185 . I want to harden up but not bulk too big. I have never used but i was considering a 3 month cycle or so just to get some viens and some definition. i want to start soon so i can be well off my cycle by next season. i dont plan to continuously use. i just want to go on one short cycle. i am thinking fina. what do you guys think?

Kick ass body, not to change the subject or anything but whats your diet like? I was considering wrestling but my college doesnt have any of that stuff

Tweetnah is vascularity is what ur looking for use eq.

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Originally posted by markriley
i just want to go on one short cycle.

Hahah I think we've all said that before. Anyway, I agree that Tren/prop cycle would probably be your best bet.

TweetYEAH, AND I JUST WANT TO DO ONE BOTTLE THIS TIME!!

(A BOTTLE THE SIZE OF A VOLKSWAGON!!!)

O2

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Originally posted by proxonetapimp
nah is vascularity is what ur looking for use eq.

eq's detection time is much longer than tren prop.. im sure you need to take that into consideration right?

TweetYeah, detection is a factor. i wrestle at a JC now so we dont get tested but im going to a university after next year and might play some football as well. thats why i was considering a short cycle for the vascularity and to stay solid during the offseason . I will probably bump to heavyweight at the universty level. and want to be around 235. i have no problem gaining weight i have weighed 230 and been as strong as an ox but im always a little too chubby when im that big. i was wanting to get some veins to maybe make the wieght gain be a little more solid next time around. I AM A BRAND NEWBIE TO THIS FIELD! I know lots about suplements but this route i am quite ignorant. thank you for any help/guidance you can give.

Tweetif its going to be that long the detection isn't a problem unless you use deca. i would go with a tren/prop combo. I wouldn't however make the prop from synovex because that is gyno waiting to happen. either find you a good local source or stick around and somebody will hook you up.

Tweetlsu said it perfect.

Tweetso is there a serious risk of gyno on an 8-10 week cycle of fina and synovex? i am considering using the synovex because of the legality of obtaining it. is this too big of a gyno risk on a short cycle?

also i was wondering if anyone has had any luck with dmso delivery? i dont like pins and i am always weary of bacteria. is this a wise route?

TweetBrother, I mean to be your friend here!

First you need to read up on these boards much more.

The good part is that this is a good board to ask any questions on. Nobody had better flame you.

Secondly do not run a tren only cycle period. The muscular gains with even a little test is so much better.

You do realize that tren and prop for that matter calls for at least every other day injects.(Screw spraying it, mostly a waste)

Still yet 100mg/ed of tren is WAY too much for a first time. Tren is the strongest shit out there which brings the strongest sides and some are bad!

Idealy start at 100mg/EODay. same with prop.
8 wks is plenty long. this combination with proper diet and training with give you remarkable results.

Lastly if I remember right while tren is a short ester the detection time is 5 months.

If you still want to do this we will help but these ARE the facts. So give them some thought. Goodluck brother you have a nice head start physic wise.